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Long ago, I put YY in a word processor, and began removing everything except what was in bold print-the Word. I wanted to see how much of the "Boible" YY would amplify, and perhaps fill in the missing verses with further amplified scriptures, giving me an "amplified Bible" that is pretty trustworthy and thorough-I love amplified scripture. Has anyone else gave thought to do this? I stopped long ago as I realized that YY was going to go through many changes before being complete, and I was just chasing my tail until then. I figured I would consider it again when YY, is complete. Can someone tell me how much scripture will be covered in YY when done? I asked Yada about this task long ago, and he said it was a large task and wasn't about to tackle it. I would love to have a "Bible" that is completly amplified scripture, like what we find in YY. How awesome would that be?
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Swalchy wrote:I have actually been working on an amplified translation of the New testament from the Oldest known Greek Manuscripts of the Greek NT since November last year. I have currently finished Mattithyah(Matthew), 2 & 3 Yahuchanon (John), Pauls letters to Philemon and Titus, and just yesterday I finished Revelation. They're all online free, and everyone who wants to is welcome to give them a read. www.thewaytoyahuweh.comPS. A bit more information is given on a thread in this section: http://yadanews.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=36 Swalchy, first I wanted to thank you for sharing your work and congrats on completing Revelation. I've been enjoying slowly making my way through Mattithyah. It is remarkable to me between that common English translations, YY, ISR Scriptures, the Harmony I shared, and your work how many variations there are on words and names. As an example I was curious about the guy I first learned to call Simmon Peter. I'm guessing Petros is the Greek, Kepha the Hebrew? I'm also somewhat confused by the Yeshua and other Yeh renderings in names that seems inconsistant with other Yah portions of names. I realize that YY covers this but I remain surprised by the insistence of even Messianic writers. In the harmony I'm reading through: source http://www.messianic.com/yeshua/chap2.htm Quote:Chapter Two BIRTH OF YESHUA
When Miryam returned to Natzeret, {before she and Yosef were married, it became known that she was pregnant}. Yosef, a righteous man, was not willing to make her a public example, so he thought it best to privately annul the engagement. But while he was burdened with this problem the messenger of YHVH appeared unto him in a dream and spoke to him, "Yosef, son of David, do not be afraid to take Miryam to be your wife, because the one who has been conceived in her is of Ruach HaKodesh of YHVH, therefore she will have a son, and you are to call His name Yeshua [YHVH who is Salvation], for He shall save His people from their sins." From YY I learned Yahushua is a compound of Yah (Yahuweh's name) and Yashar (Salavtion). I'm missing where the Yesh is arrived from?
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Thank you for the info Swatchy. I'll continue to review the thread and other related sources. I've also encountered Messianic believers who support the JPS Tanahk, hold the Mesoretic text in high regard even when in conflict with Dead Sea scrolls or LXX, as well as oral law / Talmud. I shared an article I came across called beware the yeast of the Pharisees, which equated extra (written) Scriptural rabbinical traditions without comment. I found the article on the Fossilized Customs website and if interested will link it here: http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/leaven.htmlThe Talmud / oral law might make an interesting topic for another thread?
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Quote:I have actually been working on an amplified translation of the New testament from the Oldest known Greek Manuscripts Only had a second to look at it, but wow, is that awesome. Can you read Greek? Could you please tell us your process for accomplishing this? What sources, and do you look up every word? What a wonderful contribution this will make. Now hurry up and finish it LOL What's the next one you are planning on tackling? Another "Gospel" account?
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Swalchy, I have also noticed in Scripture that the word Rock has the meaning of sure foundation or upon this foundational truth. This is the bigger rock foundation upon which Yahushua builds His Ecclesia, Truth. Which I read as Yahushua said I will build the set-apart assembly upon this foundational truth that by hearing my voice or the voice of Yahuweh or the Set-Apart Spirit, I will be able to build through your convictions and also will I be able to build through all those who come after you. If you will only hear my voice and be directed by it. This is what it says in scripture: Quote:But be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees." 12Then they understood that he was not telling them to guard against the yeast used in bread, but against the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees. Matt. 16 We must remember this Peter will speak what the adversary wants spoken and Yahushua has to say Quote:Get behind me, Satan! The very example he is trying to get across to the disciples. This quote tells me even more: Quote:"Be careful," Jesus said to them. "Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees." Beware lest the adversary speaks through the disciples, he can also speak through you! We see here Yahshua telling the disciples they can not rely on men’s teaching but must rely on Yahuweh's teaching which comes from Yahuweh's implements through which He speaks to us directly and which complements or concurs with scripture. OK, that is a little bit of what I get from this scripture. FF |
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My vote is Colossians or Galatians...
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I read his book Fossilized Customs many years ago, at that time, he was talking about producing a TANACH in Paleo-hebrew letters. Anybody know anything about this? |
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I downloaded the file they have, and looked at it, It is not Paleo-Hebrew. If you want to see an example of real Paleo-Hebrew, go to the fossilized customs site, he has the real thing. Sorry, some of these sites try to fool the unwary.
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Swalchy I have so enjoyed your translations!!!! THANK YOU!!!
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Hello Swalchy & Gang!
I've downloaded Revelation, Colossians, Galatians and Philippians. Thanks a bunch! I'll make copies for my friend who is keen on Scripture and is a true believer in that he tries to observe everything that he has learnt.
One thing I have noticed is the title of Revelation. In the past I have read that it is the "Apocalypse of the Messiyah Yahushua as written by Yahuchanon" as the revelation came from from Yahushua. Any comment here?
Also, I noticed that the fonts used are real tiny... my friend especially will have problems reading the printed page because he is in his late 60s. Is there a way to increase the font size by 2 to 4 points for the main body of text in the pdf files?
Thanks a bunch and if only there are more people like you then they could each address one book and we can have it all in a much shorter period! |
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bitnet, what I do is copy and paste it into word then highlight the text and change the font and print!! works great..ha... Swalchy as always THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!
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Hello Jeannie and Shalom everyone,
Being the Sabbath here I am plugging myself into the Forum and also reading (again!) chapters from TOM, YY and FH. I tried to copy and paste the pdf files but because there are so many notations in the margins the end result is that it needs a lot of editing. If the pdf was created with a table in three columns, then it would be easier to copy the text over column by column. As it is it cannot be copy and pasted without editing. Well, not in my software anyway as I do not use MS Word! I'd rather use OpenOffice as it is free, a bit of the "support the underdog mentality" I'm afraid. Basically, I'm cheap! Hahaha!
But, Swalchy, take your time as I can live with your work... for now as I can still read and if push comes to shove I'll do what it takes to ensure that my friend is not deprived. In about 20 years or so when my eyes are weaker... Hey, won't need them then, will I!? ;-)
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Swalchy wrote:Just to let people know that 2 Corinthians is now up, including the PDF. I've already had a request to do Ephesians, so that is next in the target line :) Huzzar The Swalch! |
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Great Swalchy, We all have friends who will love this translation, Thank you.
Swalchy do you have the scripture references for what YY says about “”Three Choices” “Three Destinations”?
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Thank you Swalchy,
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PS Do you know the chapters where the Names of Yahweh, Yahshua and the Set-Apart Spirit explain the meaning of each letter and benefits of the names???
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Thanks Swalch! Keep 'em comin'! |
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I would say Hebrews too - I think that will be an interesting one indeed! |
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Peace Swalchy,
May our Dad The Mighty One Yahuweh's love guide your translations and interpretations, and in His great wisdom may His Set-Apart Spirit guide your hand. I too vote for Ivriyth. It will indeed be an interesting read.
Your Loving Brother, Michael Browell
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Swalchy wrote: I've already been asked to do Romans, next, so I will be getting onto that ASAP.
WOOHOO :D |
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Thanks for the gift! May Yahweh bless you and protect you! |
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Thanks a bunch, Swalch, for thinking of the small guys in the OpenSource movement. We're basically cheap and won't pass up freebies... |
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Swalchy, hope you don't mind me asking but what's the process you use to do the translation? From my understanding you seem to have a good knowledge of Greek, do you speak it? What resources do you use? Do have the same collection of resources that Yada has listed in YY? I was just curious, I was going to send a personal message but I thought maybe the Forum members would like to know as well.
PS: Even though I have downloaded every PDF file you created I haven't read them fully yet, I've read bits and pieces but I'm still busy reading YY and use my ISR when I don't have access to the computer. But my intention is obviously to use them and read them :)
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Monster! Seems like you have your hands full for the time being. And your knowledge of ancient Hebrew? Are you going to do the Old Covenant as well? We already have Yada's work which is also monstrous, I can pretty much type any verse into the YY Google search bar and find that Yada has already expanded it, with the bonus of commentary. Swalchy wrote:No probs there Matthew (or would you prefer Matt?). As already stated - any way is fine for me :) Matthew, Matt, makes no difference to to me, you can even call me Maffew (that's our my fellow Afrikaaners call me because they have difficulty with the "th" sound).
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9 years! Hmmm... Hopefully we'll be taken by then. It will probably take you equally as long just to find people to help you with the task. Swalchy wrote:MattithYah = Gift of Yahuweh When I was deciding on a username upon joining I thought about using the original Hebrew name, but I stuck with the name I was given at birth. However, I do like knowing that my name contains Yah in it. I only understood the meaning of the name after reading the Shabuwa chapter of YY, that the Gift of Yahuweh is the Renewed Covenant, the removal of our sin. I always used to think of how I was God's gift to people, maybe a bit selfish of me ;), but now I have a deeper understanding of the real meaning behind the name.
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Swalchy wrote:I now have the pleasure of working on 1 Corinthians....
*cries* Can you hear it? A big WOOT cheer when it's finished.
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From CNN: Quote:Hebrew text scrutinized 2:07 CNN's Ben Wedeman reports archaeologists in Israel find what may be the oldest Hebrew text, but not all are convinced. |
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WHOOOOOO!! Yay Swalch! I've been waiting for first Corinthians I've always found parts of a little beguiling, and was waiting to see what the older manuscripts had to say. Quote:But nevertheless, I want and wish, prefer andaim, intend, will and desire for all of you to see and perceive, observe and witness, know and experience, recognise and respect, understand and take note of, comprehend and discern, pay attention to and discover, notice and examine, inspect and behold that concerning this, the chief and sole source, key and beginning, foundation and summit, head and prominent, outstanding and determinative, important and superior, top and sum-total place to turn for protection for men and males is and exists as the Anointed Messiah, and the chief and sole source, key and beginning, foundation and summit, head and prominent, outstanding and determinative, important and superior, top and sum-total place to turn for protection for women and females is the men and males, and the chief and sole source, key and beginning, foundation and summit, head and prominent, outstanding and determinative, important and superior, top and sum-total of Messiah is and exists as God .
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And, Mr. Walch, I was wondering what your opinion on the overall concept being explained in this excerpt because it has always confused me. Quote:But nevertheless, since and because it is shameful and embarrassing, humiliating and disappointing, disillusioning and dishonouring, disgraceful and confounding for a woman and female to be sheared and have all of her hair cut off, or to be shaved, not having hair at all, let her be covered and veiled with a head of long hair. Indeed, truly and surely for the reason that a man and male ought not to and is not bound, under obligation or indebted to have his head covered and veiled with long hair, as he exists as and was created as, is identical to and possesses, was from the beginning as was set down as the image and representation, form and likeness, and the glory and splendour, magnificence and excellence, pre-eminence and dignity, brightness, grace and majesty of God*; on the other hand, woman and females are and exist as the glory and splendour, magnificence and excellence, pre-eminence and dignity, brightness, grace and majesty of man and males Thank you for your insight in advance bro. |
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Matthew wrote:Can you hear it? A big WOOT cheer when it's finished. BiynaYahu wrote:WHOOOOOO!! Yay Swalch! I didn't quite grasp the answer to Matt's "prophecy" until I started reading through this page again really quick. haha. So, so that all things are as they should be I recant my 'WHOOOOOO!!' and replace it with an emphatic 'WOOT!' Blessings everyone! |
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Swalchy wrote:men should look like men, and not women, and women should look like women, and not men. This from the country that gave us Boy George and Camilla Parker Bowles... |
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edStueart wrote:This from the country that gave us Boy George and Camilla Parker Bowles...
LOL its funny coz its true... |
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Shalom,
Thanks and nice work on the site also. However, you need to tighten up the links there, bro. I'm getting 404s on a few of them. |
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hmmmm... I want google chrome so badly, but there is no Linux version.... yet. I'm on the mailing list. I will be notified as soon as it's available. Obviously though I am not using Internet Explorer. There is no Linux version, and, since no one would use in on Linux, there never will be. :D |
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Is it true that Bill Gates and King James were related?
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i dont know didly-squat about browsers and such.
just thought i would share.
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kp wrote:Is it true that Bill Gates and King James were related? Ba'al Gates. (ooh, I may have gone to far with that one...) |
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This pdf link works, but the "Download PDF file" link doesn't work from the website ;) Thanks Swalchy! Top Man! EDIT: There also seems to be a problem with the Titus "Download PDF file" link, doesn't seem to exist, gives error the file cannot be found.
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Good work swalchy - keep going! Finishing posts are insight! :) |
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Devildog wrote:Long ago, I put YY in a word processor, and began removing everything except what was in bold print-the Word. I wanted to see how much of the "Boible" YY would amplify, and perhaps fill in the missing verses with further amplified scriptures, giving me an "amplified Bible" that is pretty trustworthy and thorough-I love amplified scripture. Has anyone else gave thought to do this? I stopped long ago as I realized that YY was going to go through many changes before being complete, and I was just chasing my tail until then. I figured I would consider it again when YY, is complete. Can someone tell me how much scripture will be covered in YY when done? I asked Yada about this task long ago, and he said it was a large task and wasn't about to tackle it. I would love to have a "Bible" that is completly amplified scripture, like what we find in YY. How awesome would that be? I don't see that DD's question was ever answered (#1 post above). Is there a file available with Yada's amplified verses? DD are you out there? Have you continued to work on this? |
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Swalchy wrote:Hey IHN (funnily enough, shortening your name gives me a placeholder/Nomina Sacra for Yahushua - lol): Devildog is now agathθr, but I don't know whether he did continue working on this. Saying that, what agathOr was trying to do, IIRC, is part of Yada's to-do-list. I'll try and find the link to the topic. I'm sure Yada wouldn't mind others doing that for him :) Edit: found it; http://www.yadanews.com/...st715_YY-To-Do-List.aspx Excellent, Thank You. Like agath0r, I had also started this. I am about 1/2 through Book 1 Genesis, I will continue. agath0r, did you continue with this, let's compare notes. |
“Because he clings to Me, is joined to Me, loves and delights in Me, desires Me, therefore I will deliver him, carry him safely away, cause him to escape from harm making him inaccessible and strong, and delivering him safely to heaven, because he has known, observed, cared for, recognized, instructed and advised others to use, designated, acknowledged, discerned, answered in, My name, authority, character, report, mark, and nature." Psalm 91:14 |
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Well done the Swalch - only 3 more to go :D |
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Thank you swalchy awesome work!
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Agreed!
I was going through it last night and I found the word σκοτους (in verse 13 of Yahuwdah) is "ignorance" in its core meaning, as in the "darkness of ignorance" as used in the line, whereas most English translations use the term "blackest darkness" instead. Maybe I'm wrong on this but the difference gives a different understanding. Swalchy's version seems to say "they'll never know and will be kept in ignorance of the truth" where the other seems to say "they'll reap the reward of eternal punishment in a place of blackness."
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Shabbat Shalom,
As Gomer Pyle would say, "Thankee, thankee, thankee, Swalcheee!" |
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