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Offline kleeb  
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:11:16 PM(UTC)
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Once again the supreme court in the Peoples Republic of California has overturned the will of the people. They say it us unconstitutional to deny gays to marry. You can read the story here. If you think it is necessary to read more. http://news.yahoo.com/s/...ap_on_re_us/gay_marriage
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#2 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:12:31 PM(UTC)
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an unfortunate result of the society with live in. :( The world is so messed up, but atleast its gonna keep us busy.
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#3 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2008 1:28:03 AM(UTC)
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Yeah, I read the headline, and maybe the first paragraph. This is another example of the minority defeating the majority in our "democratic" society.

Really, though, I would prefer it all just be left out of our politics and media. There are bigger issues. When they "marry" it is only our government that is joining them, because it sure ain't ordained by Yahuweh. So, if they want to tie their finances together and deal with all the other stuff that comes attached with a state "marriage" then whatever. Whether or not they "marry" probably is not going to affect which of the three doors they go through in the end. I just don't want to hear about it.
Offline bitnet  
#4 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2008 5:07:23 AM(UTC)
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Shabbat Shalom,

This may be the start of woes for California like never before. They should be more circumspect about the lie of their land and recognise that the San Andreas Fault and the many other smaller fault lines that creep throughout the state can easily awaken according to the will of the Creator, who simply hates homosexuality. We can only pray that Abba Yahweh delays the back of His hand in deference to the people He has chosen who still live there.
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Offline Sator  
#5 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2008 6:36:15 AM(UTC)
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I live in an area in southern cal. Out of all the people I talk to in my march through life I don't personally know one single person that would have been in favor of a decision like this. I find it offensive. The legislative branch is going to do whatever they want regardless of the will of the people.

Since I have absolutely no control over what the politicians do here I hope the fault lines stay intact. I actually thought about moving but there is no righteous place on earth; just varying degrees of unrighteous places.

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#6 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2008 7:43:26 AM(UTC)
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I thought that Califorina has scheduled a referedum to decide this issue. I've heard that something like 61% of the California electorate opposses the recognition of same sex "marriage". I wonder if the will of the four lawyers on the bench tumps the declared will of the majority of the voting citizens on this matter?

I've only been to Claifornia once and that on military excercises at the Nation Training Center at Fort Irwin. Being stuck in a tent for a few weeks in the open desert, I was actually hoping to experience a tremor if not a quake fuguring all it would do is knock my tent down unless a fault opened beneath us and swalled us whole.
Offline kleeb  
#7 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2008 3:15:57 PM(UTC)
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I was really upset by this when I first heard it. Now I just see it as one more thing I have no control over. If the government wants to sanction gay marriage, then so be it. It will never be sanctioned by the one governing authority that I put my faith in. Lee
Offline EI  
#8 Posted : Saturday, May 17, 2008 9:10:10 AM(UTC)
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This is utterly ridiculous! Oooops, I better watch what I say or a will be called a homophobe, a bigot, intolerant, and a 'bible thumping hypocrite.'

Does anyone in this world take scripture seriously anymore? Really, beside the people that are on this forum do any of you know other people that actually try to follow scripture in a way that does not involve Christmas, Easter, and the torah being nailed to the cross with Jesus????? Just how short and narrow the way will be has really started to come in prospective to me in the last year or so. There is truly none that is good.

During my summer session for my doctorates that I am doing now we are taking a teaching and learning class. It is designed to prepare us to be professional educators (for the few of us that are thinking of going that direction). We, of course, had several classes about cultural awareness or proficiency. We are being told how it is important to respect the rights of others, respect all religions, respect homosexuals, be POLITICALLY CORRECT! Then of course there is my kinesiology teacher who makes it a point to show how everything he communicates to us is 100% backed by the irrefutable fact of evolutionary principles. YES YOU CAME FROM A SINGLE CELL ORGANISM and YOU WERE A MONKEY SWINGING IN THE TREES, ad nauseam.

I know I am rambling but really, America will earn its fate.

Offline Yada  
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:18:51 AM(UTC)
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And now, it seems, in New York also - from CNN's website:

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NEW YORK (CNN) -- Gov. David Paterson of New York has told state agencies to recognize same-sex marriages performed in states and countries where they are legal, his spokeswoman said Wednesday.


A little later in the story:
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The memo informed state agencies that failing to recognize gay marriages would violate the New York's human rights law, Duggan said.


Evidence of yet more Secular Humanism? Quoting from the Skia chapter in Yada Yahweh:

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With Socialist Secular Humanists, they promise utopia on earth, and yet the more they are empowered, the more depraved and hellish earth becomes.


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Offline Yah Tselem  
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:03:56 AM(UTC)
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Yada, funny that you quoted the chapter from Skia, since that's the exact chapter I'm reading. Coincidence, I think not...

yes, the secular humanists promise that if you educate America (or anyone) that you will produce paradise on earth.. but they haven't done it and they're not going to. it has produced a nation of violence, adulturers, murderers, students killing each other in schools, the killing of babies, homosexuals, etc, etc. why? because education without Yahweh only produces an intellectual zombie. May Yahweh take their blinders off so they see the cliff they're about to walk over..
Offline Yada  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 4, 2008 6:14:30 AM(UTC)
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I was listening in on a Internet chat room and the participants were lamenting the moral decline of America. One person said, "No one is interested in getting married and raising a family anymore." Another person responded with, "Yeah, the only people who want to get married these days are homosexuals."
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Offline Yada  
#12 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2008 4:50:50 AM(UTC)
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Not only is this confined to California it seems - they travelled across "the Pond:"

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Row as gay clergy 'wed' at movie church


LONDON, England (CNN) -- A leading Christian church has been plunged into a new row about gay clergy after a marriage-style service between two male priests at a London church, local media report.


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Offline bitnet  
#13 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2008 5:15:15 AM(UTC)
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Ummm... I suppose this is a confirmation of which "ekklesia" they belong to... Hey, people! The writing is on the wall is getting more graphic! Wake up! Your spiritual leaders are leading you down the path to perdition! Get out of that place and seek the One True Creator who has declared His Will and identified Himself for all ages! The Truth will set you free and you do not have to be in that particular congregation or denomination that you are in if they go against His Word. Get out of Babylon while you can!
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Offline Yada  
#14 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2008 9:16:57 PM(UTC)
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From CNN:

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Lesbian pioneers wed at San Francisco City Hall

Story Highlights
- Del Martin, 87, and Phyllis Lyon, 84, married by San Francisco mayor
- Ceremony comes as California ruling allowing same-sex marriages takes effect
- Couple moved in together in 1950s
- Pair founded nation's first lesbian organization in 1955

(CNN) -- Breaking ground is nothing new in the nearly six-decade relationship of Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon.

The lesbian couple were the first to participate in a 2004 challenge of California laws against same-sex marriage, exchanging wedding vows only to see the ceremony voided later.

But on Monday, Martin, 87, and Lyon, 84, exchanged vows again. This time, California law -- at least for now -- was on their side.

"I think it's a wonderful day and I have to thank our mayor for most of it," Lyon said. "I'm very happy and very grateful for all of you."

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, who helped launch the series of lawsuits that led the court to strike down California's one-man-one-woman marriage laws, presided at their wedding at City Hall...


The complete story from CNN is here.

Video: Watch crowd greet couple with cheers..

Map: Status of same sex union laws in the U.S.

The caption to the photo below reads: "San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom presided over the marriage of Phyllis Lyon, standing, and Del Martin."

If you're curious to know more about San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, TIME reported: "San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom recently admitted to an affair with Ruby Rippey-Tourk, the wife of his re-election campaign manager Alex Tourk who resigned on January 31 after learning of the affair."

The TIME story opens with:

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Adultery never looks good on a political resume. But whether it is a career ender or just an unsightly smudge depends on the politician involved. Now, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom is another example to study in the interplay of sex and politics...


The complete TIME article is here.

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Offline Yada  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:58:10 PM(UTC)
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Same-sex couples rush to tie the knot

Story Highlights
Rainbow flags wave, chorus sings on first full day of California same-sex marriages
Hundreds of gay and lesbian couples line up for licenses, wedding ceremonies
A few protesters show up with signs opposing same-sex marriage
Court hearing set for Tuesday on conservative group's bid to stop the weddings

SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- County clerk offices opened their doors Tuesday to hundreds of gay and lesbian couples with appointments to secure marriage licenses and exchange vows on the first full day same-sex nuptials were legal throughout California.

From San Diego to Eureka, couples readied their formal wear, local licensing clerks expanded their staffs and conservative groups warned of a backlash as the nation's most populous state joined Massachusetts in sanctioning gay unions.

In San Francisco, a gay men's chorus was singing on the front steps, where a party atmosphere was lit up by rainbow flags and supporters handing out cupcakes to happy couples.

Helen Zia and Lea Shigemura sang "The Chapel of Love" as they walked to the city attorney's office to get married. The couple, clad in beige jackets and slacks, exchanged vows with Zia's mother by their side.

"This is the most meaningful day of my life. I've always wanted to get married," Shigemura said. "I just never thought it'd be possible."

Unlike Massachusetts, which legalized same-sex marriage in 2004, California has no residency requirement for marriage licenses. Many couples are expected to head west to wed. iReport.com: Share your feelings, photos and videos

The May 15 California Supreme Court ruling that overturned the state's bans on same-sex marriage became final at 5:01 p.m. Monday, and clerks in at least five counties extended their hours to mark the occasion...


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Offline Yada  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:23:29 AM(UTC)
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'Star Trek' star to marry partner

WEST HOLLYWOOD, California (AP) -- "Star Trek" star George Takai is ready to "live long and prosper" with his partner of 21 years.

Takai will marry 54-year-old Brad Altman on September 14 in Los Angeles.

The 71-year-old actor, known for his role as Sulu on the "Star Trek" sci-fi TV series, was the first to pay $70 for a marriage license in West Hollywood early Tuesday.

The marriage license is good for 90 days.

Takai was jubilant, saying "it's going to be the only day like this in our lives and it is the only day like this in the history of America."
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He told reporters and a swelling crowd outside the West Hollywood city auditorium "may equality live long and prosper."

The California Supreme Court has legalized same-sex marriage.


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Offline Yada  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:29:01 AM(UTC)
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Here are some additional stories about "same sex marriage" from CNN:

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Same-sex marriages create 'shame,' new life, iReporters say

Same-sex marriages will put "a shame" upon the United States, one person wrote Tuesday; but for another, the legalization of the unions in California made it seem as though "life is opening up."


The stories, photos, and videos are here.
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Offline raoulduke  
#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:31:27 AM(UTC)
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This is ridiculous, the only reason they are doing this is to make a mockery out of real marriages. The idea that a real marriage and a homosexual marriage are the same is absurd. For one thing a heterosexual marriage can actually produce babies. I think people have the idea in their heads created by t.v of homosexual couples living together in a nice house where everything is perfect save a horrible society. But according to Statistics Canada (where I live) gays make up one couple in a thousand with the vast majority prefering not to get married. And according to After the Ball: How America will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90's gay lifestyle suffers from some problems including:
narcissistic personality disorder
promiscuous sexual behaviour
gays with HIV continuing to have un-protected sex
sex in public bathrooms
cheating rates approaches 100 per cent given enough time

That's not really the same as a heterosexual marriage is it?
Offline kp  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:22:08 AM(UTC)
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Raoulduke asks...
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That's not really the same as a heterosexual marriage is it?


I live in the U.S., so I've gotta ask... That's not a trick question, is it?
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:51:12 AM(UTC)
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That's hilarious Kp, no I was being serious. Marriages here aren't the best but I don't think there's a lot of compulsive sex in public bathrooms. Of course there might be, but I might not be cool enough to know.

Mike
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#21 Posted : Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:50:19 AM(UTC)
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June 24, 2008
COMMENTARY: Where would Jesus be?
By Tom Ehrich

On Sunday afternoon, many thousands across the country will walk city streets in annual Gay Pride parades. Most will be gays and lesbians, but a growing number will be heterosexuals who support dignity, freedom and acceptance for all persons. Meanwhile, two coteries of Anglican bishops will prepare to gather: the official conference in London, a conservative splinter group in Jerusalem. I think I know where Jesus will be next Sunday afternoon: marching for dignity, freedom and acceptance. But I know for sure where Jesus will be Monday morning: loving the lost, healing the sick, sustaining the hopeful, comforting the afflicted, and inviting us to join hands in circles of faith.

(Tom Ehrich is a writer, church consultant and Episcopal priest based in New York. He is the author of "Just Wondering, Jesus," and the founder of the Church Wellness Project, http://www.churchwellness.com. His Web site is http://www.morningwalkmedia.com.)
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:06:49 AM(UTC)
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Mormon church president calls for backing of California ‘one man-one woman’ marriage amendment
By Peggy Fletcher Stack/ The Salt Lake Tribune

On the 39th anniversary of New York City's Stonewall Riots, which arguably launched the gay rights movement, the LDS Church is asking California Mormons to support a proposed constitutional amendment that would recognize only marriages between a man and a woman.
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:09:47 AM(UTC)
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Anglicans vow no schism over gays, dogma
By George Conger/ Special to the Washington Times

The weeklong gathering of 300 bishops and 700 clergy and lay leaders at the Renaissance Hotel hoped to offer a way forward for Episcopal and Anglican churches divided over homosexuality and biblical authority but unwilling to secede from the 77-million-member Anglican Communion.


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#24 Posted : Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:56:57 PM(UTC)
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Wednesday, February 27, 2008
The Bishops’ Daughters

This month, two Episcopal bishops' daughters have articles in high-profile magazines. In the March 3 New Yorker, Honor Moore dishes family secrets about her father, retired Bishop Paul Moore of New York, a war veteran and liberal activist. He was the first Episcopal bishop to ordain a lesbian priest. Hear a podcast with Honor here. And in The Atlantic, former Presiding Bishop Frank Griswold's daughter, Eliza, has a piece on religious conflict in Nigeria. A snippet: "At the time of the massacre, Archbishop Peter Akinola was the president of the Christian Association of Nigeria, whose membership was implicated in the killings. He has since lost his bid for another term but, as primate of the Anglican Church of Nigeria, he is still the leader of 18 million Anglicans. He is a colleague of my father, who was the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church in America from 1997 to 2006. But the American Episcopals' election of an openly homosexual bishop in 2003, which Archbishop Akinola denounced as "satanic," created distance between them. When I arrived in 2006 in the capital of Abuja to see the archbishop, his office door was locked. Its complicated buzzing-in system was malfunctioning, and he was trapped inside. Finally, after several minutes, the angry buzzes stopped and I could hear a man behind the door rise and come across the floor. The archbishop, in a pale-blue pantsuit and a darker-blue crushed-velvet hat, opened the door. " To say that Griswold and Akinola are "colleagues," is a bit roseate but whatever.
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#25 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2008 12:51:17 PM(UTC)
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June 27, 2008
Presbyterians to debate gay pastors, same-sex unions
By Kimberly Winston

SAN JOSE, Calif. -- The nation's largest Presbyterian denomination is scheduled Friday to debate the possibility of ordination for non-celibate gays and lesbians. At its biannual General Assembly, representatives of the Presbyterian Church (USA) will consider a move to allow openly gay clergy but keep its current rules intact after a delicate compromise approved two years ago fell apart. Under the proposal, candidates for ordination would be allowed to declare a conscientious objection to church rules against actively gay clergy, but regional bodies would ultimately decide if that qualified as a disqualifier for ordination.


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#26 Posted : Sunday, June 29, 2008 6:12:56 PM(UTC)
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Not only in CA it seems:

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ISRAEL: Gay pride parade in Jerusalem

Members of Jerusalem's Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender community and their supporters marched in Jerusalem on Thursday afternoon, and ultra-Orthodox Jews staged a protest from a safe distance in what has become an annual test of strength.

The gay community sees itself as deprived of full recognition, equality and rights. Ultra-Orthodox Jews reject homosexuality as depravity.

Posters signed by critical rabbinical authorities, sanctimonious eye-rolling on both sides, the inevitable petition to the supreme court, as well as the expected ruling in favor — everyone knows the drill.

In part, the gay issue taps into existing tensions in Israel between religious and secular and right- vs. left-wing politics, and the whole thing is often perceived as a package deal. Not surprisingly, protesters against the parade included Itamar Ben-Gvir, a career activist whose name is in the notebook of any reporter who ever covered a right-wing demonstration in Israel.

Last year, the city suffered $100,000 in damages after thousands of religious protesters rioted, breaking street lamps, road signs and traffic lights and setting garbage dumpsters ablaze. A protester had stabbed several participants a few years ago and hugely disproportionate numbers of police had been deployed.

This year, tensions were lower. A religious demonstration called last week had a poor turnout, explained by some as reluctance to give the parade any free publicity.

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#27 Posted : Monday, June 30, 2008 7:22:06 AM(UTC)
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Like I've always said, Israel's worst enemy is usually Israel.

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#28 Posted : Monday, June 30, 2008 1:02:10 PM(UTC)
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The following is from Tamar Yonah's blog regarding the Jerusalem parade: http://www.israelnationa...ws.com/Blogs/Blog.aspx/3 The photos didn't copy.

24 Sivan 5768, 6/27/2008
The Parade That Nobody Came To Watch
by Tamar Yonah

Well, it was grueling for me. I went to report on the IM-PURrade (Gay Pride parade) that took place in the Holy City of Jerusalem today. Just driving there hurt me. The colorful rainbow flags were already up, hanging from the city's light poles along King David Street, and it stung. Security forces were everywhere. I cringed thinking that a sex parade would soon be flaunting itself down the street with its marchers wearing smiles of victory that they can bring their private lives of what they do in their bedrooms, into our public streets.

The only good thing was, that it mimicked last year's parade, in that no one really showed up to view their 'pride'. The streets were empty, and it seems that Jerusalemites de-facto boycotted the event, yet again.
To tell the truth, almost everyone on the sidelines were either security forces or the media. I took some photographs which I will post below.
Agron Street. The marchers begin their parade, but there are no onlookers, just security forces and a few media people with cameras.
Above & Below: Empty streets. In the far back is the begining of the parade with its marchers.
In front of the YMCA and the King David Hotel. Hark! It looks like a few tourists (11 people?) from the hotel came to view the parade.
The marchers arrive. Notice the child on top of the shoulders of the man in the red T-shirt. I saw a few children and dogs brought to march in the parade. Some Israeli MKs are trying to pass a law that children cannot be brought to march in these parades.
The photo above shows a sign in Arabic, as Arabs march as well. Some of the marchers were chanting and clapping, "Homophobia is a disease."
Behind the tail end of the parade, with police on horseback. But still, the streets remain empty of onlookers. They didn't have an audience.

How disapointing it must be to have a parade, if no one shows up to watch it??? Maybe our brothers and sisters here will get the message, that we are not interested in viewing or hosting parades which flaunt deviant sexual lifestyles.

Offline bitnet  
#29 Posted : Monday, June 30, 2008 6:41:25 PM(UTC)
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Shalom,

If the deviants insist on promoting their stuff in public, a time will come when they shall be called up to account for their actions. However, now if all of Israel reject their lifestlye and do not support it and instead move collectively to refuse public recognition of these people, laws can be passed to disallow such parades. As it is, Israel is the only country in the Middle East that allows such freedom. It is liberating, but will come at a price. It is not in Israel's interests to support these people, and should they continue to let the tail wag the dog the social costs will escalate.
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, July 1, 2008 10:47:05 AM(UTC)
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Let's see what Gays have to say about themselves:

Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen Ph.D., authors of "After the Ball: How America will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90's"(1989).

In Chapter Six, (Kirk and Hunter) outline "ten categories of misbehavior," drawn from their own experiences, wide reading and thousands of hours of conversation with hundreds of other gays. Their contention is that the male gay lifestyle, (not gay sexuality mind you), "is the pits." They want gays to improve their image by addressing "what is wrong with a lot of gays." (276)

· The authors say "a surprisingly high percentage" of pathological liars and con men are gay. This results from a natural habit of self-concealment, and leads to a stubborn self-deception about one's own gayness and its implication.

· They say gays tend to reject all forms of morality and value judgments. Gay morality boils down to "I can do whatever I want and you can go to perdition. (If it feels good, I'll do it!)" If a gay feels like seducing a trusted friend's lover, he'll do it, justifying it as an act of "sexual freedom" and the friend be damned.

· They say gays suffer from a "narcissistic" personality disorder and give this clinical description: "pathological self absorption, a need for constant attention and admiration, lack of empathy or concern for others, quickly bored, shallow, interested in fads, seductive, overemphasis on appearance, superficially charming, promiscuous, exploitative, preoccupied with remaining youthful, relationships alternate between over idealization and devaluation."

· As an example of this narcissism, the authors say "a very sizable proportion of gay men" who have been diagnosed HIV positive continue to have unprotected sex.

· They say the majority of gays are extremely promiscuous and self-indulgent. They must continuously up the ante to achieve arousal. This begins with alcohol and drugs and includes such "forbidden" aspects of sex as wallowing in filth (fetishism and coprophilia) and sadomasochism, which involves violence.

· They say many gays indulge in sex in public bathrooms and think it is antigay harassment when it is stopped. Many think they have a right to importune straight males, including children.

· Many gays are "single minded sexual predators" fixated on youth and physical beauty alone. When it comes to the old or ugly, gays are "the real queer bashers." Disillusioned themselves, they are cynical about love.

· "Relationships between gay men don't usually last very long." They quickly tire of their partners and fall victim to temptation. The "cheating ratio of 'married' gay males, given enough time, approaches 100%."

· Even friendships are based on the sexual test and hard to sustain. Unattractive gay men find it nearly impossible to find a friend, let alone a lover.

· The authors say gays tend to deny reality in various ways: wishful thinking, paranoia, illogic, emotionalism and embracing crackpot ideas.

Here are some quotes from Frank Kameny (The Patron Saint of the Gay Agenda):

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"Let us have more and better enjoyment of more and better sexual perversions, by whatever definition, by more and more consenting adults. We will all be the better off thereby. And that will be Americanism in action..."

"Bestiality is not my thing ... But it seems to be a harmless foible or idiosyncrasy of some people. So, as long as the animal doesn't mind (and the animal rarely does), I don't mind, and I don't see why anyone else should."

"Anyone who does not choose to view some particular pornography has an absolute right not to view it. But there is NO valid right for such people even to attempt to limit or prevent its acquisition and viewing by those who do choose to view it. Such attempts represent moral fascism, the American Taliban, and Christianofascism in action. They must be resisted to the uttermost. That is the view of the National Consumers Association for the Advancement and Protection of Pornography, Inc., of which I am the founder and president."

"Let us have more and better enjoyment of more and better and harder-core pornography by those to whom such viewing provides happiness."


I was reading the article at wikipedia on Narcisstic Personality Disorder which the overwhelming majority of Gays suffer from in one of it's two forms (the think skinned aloof form or the thin skinned sensitive form (also termed projected or false narcissism)
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DSM Criteria
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following[1]:

has a grandiose sense of self-importance
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
believes that he or she is "special" and unique
requires excessive admiration
has a sense of entitlement
is interpersonally exploitative
lacks empathy
is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes


I have studied or worked with 6 homosexuals in my life and I don't claim to be an expert, but I am being deadly honest when I say this...They matched the description of the above in all or most of the listed traits of NPD....especially when it came to requiring excessive admiration and attention...it's almost as if they were constantly screaming "Look at me...Look at me!!!!" I am sure there are gays that are not flamboyant and want privacy and peace...but I find it rather odd that every single Homosexual that I have ever been around was like this, indeed I find this fact to be beyond coincidence. When you look at these parades you can't but realize that Narcissism is the unifying cord throughout these events. These parades are put on by the self important and "entitled" self proclaimed victim class, who lacking all empathy will basically hijack part of a city and impose their will on the residents with a complete lack of decorum, taste, shame, or modesty. They air their vulgar, perverse, vain fantasies locally and through the media nationally. Their arrogance or overcompensation for their own self loathing is all too apparent.

Gays hate Judeo/Christian civilizational norms (what can be called the Torah either followed in knowlege or ignorance) because it is a constant reminder of how out of line they are. The rabid radical end of the spectrum (the likes of Frank Kameny) wish to disrupt, warp, and destroy these Yah given norms. Gay Marriage is just another tool in that endeavor. Whether knowing villains or useful idiot pawns...the gays and politicians like Gavin Newsom and Governor Ahhnold....oh...and those court justices who partook in or enabled gay marriage have slavishly served the gay agenda to those destructive and dastardly ends.
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#31 Posted : Tuesday, July 1, 2008 10:56:12 AM(UTC)
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I know I should have just probably put this on the same post or given it in a link but I wanted to spare the Qodeshim from the agonizing PC dross that was found in the comment section and I think that it is very relevent to the discussion:

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Some statistics about the Homosexual lifestyle:


* One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3)
* One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime
* Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7)
* Many homosexuals don't pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: "Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior" (16)
* Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. "Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence" (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels "subjective distress") (27)
* Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the "gay bowel syndrome" (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27)
* 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13)
* 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11)
* Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro", one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to "cruisy areas" and have anonymous sex
* 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20)
* Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities" (10)
* Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, "30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals" (10)
* 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10)
* Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, "Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person" (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality
* It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10)
* Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8)
* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8)
* 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8)
* Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8)
* The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8)
* The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8)
* Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8)
* 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8)
* 50% of the calls to a hotline to report "queer bashing" involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals) (18)
* About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12).


Homosexuals prey on children.


* 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7)
* There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States
* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19)
* 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9)
* Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22)
* Because homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting "TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT" in their homosexual parades. A group called the "Lesbian Avengers" prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print "WE RECRUIT" on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren't as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert.


The homosexual agenda.


* The homosexual agenda includes desensitizing the public: "The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights.....To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games....At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full 'appreciation' or 'understanding' of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing...then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won" (25)
* Part of the homosexual agenda is to get the public to affirm their filthy lifestyle, as one homosexual admitted in the October 1987 homosexual rally on Washington: "We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a protection from wrong. We also have a right -- as heterosexual Americans already have -- to see government and society affirm our lives" (27)
* Part of the homosexual agenda is to turn people from Christianity: "The teaching that only male-female sexual activity within the bounds and constraints of marriage is the only acceptable form should be reason enough for any homosexual to denounce the Christian religion" (1)
* Homosexuals knowingly lied (and still lie) about the 10% figure (i.e., homosexuals make up 10% of the population). As Tom Stoddard (formerly of the Lambda Legal Defense Fund) said, "We used that figure when most gay people were entirely hidden to try to create an impression of our numerousness" (17).


The true number of homosexuals.


* The Kinsey study of 1948, which homosexuals often cite to say that 10% of the population is homosexual, actually says that only 4% of the population is EXCLUSIVELY homosexual. This study involved a disproportionate number of people who had been in jail for sex crimes (hardly a random sample of the population). Kinsey also did perverse studies involving young boys and pedophiles. Information on Kinsey
* Current research shows that the true percentage of homosexuals is in the 1-2% range (15,23,26,28). Consider how small this number is when compared to most of the numbers above.


Homosexuals aren't discriminated against in employment, so why should they be a protected class?


* The average yearly income of a homosexual is $55,430.00 (most of which is disposable because no children to take care of!). The average of the general population is $32,144.00. The average of blacks is $12,166.00 (24)
* 59.6% of homosexuals are college graduates. 18.0% of the general population are college graduates (24). Too bad they aren't smart enough to listen to God. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" (Romans 1:22)
* 49.0% of homosexuals hold professional/managerial positions. 15.9% of the general population hold such positions (24). Where's the job discrimination?


Sexual Orientation


• A phrase that has come up recently in this earth is "sexual orientation." This is a phrase made up by homosexuals to try to make themselves look less filthy than they really are. The purpose of the phrase is to take the spotlight from what these perverts do, and put it on the notion that they are just poor, mistreated people, who simply are attracted to members of the same sex - as if they aren't engaging in activity forbidden by God Almighty. "Sexual orientation," as used today, has nothing to do with sexual activity (yeah, right), but only refers to who or what a particular person is attracted to. If you think that people of other "sexual orientations" are just fine, let's see what other "sexual orientations" you would necessarily have to accept as wholesome and pure. If you're not going to discriminate based on "sexual orientation", then you must not discriminate against any of the following. Bestiality, pedophile, necrophilia., exhibitionism, fetishism, frotteurism, masochism, sadism, transvestitism, voyeurism. If you discriminate against any of these, you're a hypocrite. These "sexual orientations" are generally known as "paraphilias", and are mental disorders - just like homosexuality used to be (29).



REFERENCES


(1) Advocate, 1985
(2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry
(3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978
(4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299
(5) "Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea." Lancet, April 25, 1987
(6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men." New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE
(8) Fields, Dr. E. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275
(10) Kaifetz, J. "Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some," Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992
(11) Kus, R. "Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America." Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254
(12) Lesbian News, January 1994
(13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11
(14) Manlight, G. et. al. "Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens." J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438
(15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy (16) MsKusick, L. et. al. "AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco." Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96
(17) Newsweek, February 1993
(18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993
(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37
(20) Rueda, E. "The Homosexual Network." Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53
(21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, "Can We Talk." (22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992
(23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322
(24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990
(25) "The Overhauling of Straight America." Guide Magazine. November, 1987
(26) United States Census Bureau (27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989
(28) University of Chicago's Nation Research Corp
(29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994.


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As a civilization we can't recognize truth even it prances around in a thong, or in pleather with a whip, or crossdresses. We can't accept a truth of NAMBLA and an obsession with young boys and adolescents We won't believe a truth that is diseased and mentally plagued.
We choose to term it "Gay Rights" instead

We can't recognize truth if it straps bombs to itself and seeks to destroy the innocent, we can't understand a truth that kills daughters for not wearing a piece of clothing or being unwilling to marry their cousins, we won't accept a truth that desires to subdue the world under conversion or slavery.
"The religion of peace" is the preferred nomenclature

May such a society and civilization know a speedy end...Im Yirtsah YHWH.

Shalom
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, July 2, 2008 12:28:09 AM(UTC)
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Shalom,

I really like your post, shalom82, and it does clarify why Yahweh cleansed Sodom and Gomorrah and the other cities of the plains. This disease will lead to other diseases and should be stamped out instead of being celebrated. Are we intolerant? Of course we are! And proud of it! So, are we to be marginalised? Then perhaps we should seek special rights!
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:24:23 PM(UTC)
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From CNN:

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Californians cleared to vote on same-sex marriage ban

Story Highlights
* California Supreme Court declines to block November vote
* State residents to vote on whether to ban same-sex marriages
* Activist group had sought to block ballot initiative
* Same-sex marriages were legalized in state earlier this year

Full story


CNN included this photo with the story. The caption reads: "A gay couple is married in California in June. Voters could void same-sex marriages in the state in November."
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:11:27 PM(UTC)
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Quote of the Day:

"I never understood how this became a liberal/conservative thing. I thought gay marriage was something the religious right would try to foist on gay people. You know, so gay couples could be miserable like the rest of us. "

--Boston Globe columnist Kevin Cullen, discussing continued opposition by conservative groups to same-sex marriage in Massachusetts
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#35 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2008 8:36:17 PM(UTC)
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August 22, 2008

Hallmark plan for gay marriage cards angers conservatives
By Tim Murphy

Hallmark's decision to introduce a new line of cards for gay marriages has drawn criticism from conservative Christian groups who accuse the company of promoting immoral behavior.
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#36 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:15:24 PM(UTC)
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Gay pride advocacy group sues Birmingham mayor
By Val Walton

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- A gay rights group has filed a federal lawsuit against the mayor of Birmingham, accusing him of refusing to allow pro-gay banners for religious reasons.
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#37 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:24:31 PM(UTC)
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"I never understood how this became a liberal/conservative thing. I thought gay marriage was something the religious right would try to foist on gay people. You know, so gay couples could be miserable like the rest of us. "


I am so sick of this hackneyed, repulsive joke/insult that I want to vomit. I have heard and read it over and over again with slight variation, and if the people who espouse this opinion/"hillarity" would realize the inherrent and depressing reality of their favorite perversion/abomination,homosexuality, maybe they would shut their traps and sit at the table like good boys and girls...I am sooo utterly sick of the verbal diarrhea of the usual suspects, the media, the clergy, and the teachers. Let me herd goats in the Negev, Im Yirtsah YHWH....in all seriousness!!!! It would be better than the constant hammer blows to my common sense and Yah given sense of reason/decency.

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#38 Posted : Friday, September 5, 2008 9:34:29 PM(UTC)
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September 04, 2008
Gay marriage may test Native American sovereignty
By Bill Graves

COOS BAY, Ore. -- Kitzen and Jeni Branting have been in a committed lesbian relationship since high school and plan to get legally married in Oregon next spring. True, voters amended the state Constitution in 2004 to allow marriage only between only a man and a woman. And Congress outlawed gay marriage more than a decade ago. But Kitzen Branting, 25, is a member of the Coquille Indian Tribe. As a federally recognized sovereign nation, the tribe is not bound by the Oregon Constitution. The tribe recently adopted a law that recognizes same-sex marriage and extends to gay and lesbian partners, at least one of whom must be a Coquille, all tribal benefits of marriage. Because the Coquilles have federal status, a marriage within the tribe would be federally recognized, Gilley says. And that would violate the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

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#39 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 6:39:56 AM(UTC)
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I don't understand why people worry about other peoples behaviour more than there own... I mean let them have their piece of paper, and their title just leave the churches out of it unless they decide to involve themselves with these abominations, and let people be people. In the end either god will sort out their heads or just let them die in their sin. I don't understand why the christian right considers this such a threat to their own faiths.
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BiynaYahu wrote:
I don't understand why people worry about other peoples behaviour more than there own... I mean let them have their piece of paper, and their title just leave the churches out of it unless they decide to involve themselves with these abominations, and let people be people. In the end either god will sort out their heads or just let them die in their sin. I don't understand why the christian right considers this such a threat to their own faiths.


yea its strange isnt it.
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#41 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 1:06:09 PM(UTC)
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I don't know, it seems pretty obvious. Religion, especially the Chirstian right, seems to be about control instead of the relationship which Yahuweh offers. Since they have neglected the true meaning of the scriptures, they have nothing left but "the outward form of Godliness" and no further purpose but to slavishly and Pharisee-icly enforce whichever rules don't personally affect them upon a populace undifferentiated in their eyes by relationship. Thus the remnant of the law which they haven't seen fit to abrogate as being "nailed to the cross" has become their binding, their religion, and even, quite possibly to some, their god.

If salvation is "through grace by faith" than why do the Evangelical leaders bother to cherrypick laws to enforce on the populace? Because it allows them to act superior, to elevate themselves, like the Rabbis of Messiah's time, to a higher position by dragging others down. Because they fail to understand the contents of the book they beat over the heads of whatever minority they know no one will stand up for. Because they know that anyone who truly desires communion with Yahuweh will soon leave them and their self-serving dreams of power behind and that their only way to maintain their power is to waylay whomever they can with their meaningless cultural crusade. Because doing the job which Yahushua gave us, to "make disciples of all nations" was too hard for them, so they settled for just making a nation of slaves. Because they never left "Mitsraiyim" and "Babylon" behind, they just continued to carry it in their own hearts and minds, and replicated it wherever they set up shop.

Really I don't think it's that hard to formulate a hypothesis as to why these people are so worried about other people's behavior, but it's definitely a more depressing pursuit than one would really like.

And I apologize for ranting here, but it's just so rare to be around people who might be sympathetic to what I'm trying to say :)
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#42 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2008 10:06:20 PM(UTC)
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Shalom,

Welcome Big Rich, and continue to rant and rave here for we understand. It is indeed sad to see the autumn of mankind coming upon all of us and we know that the Word will be scarce in the last days. The ways of this world will continue to blot out their only hope and with it, our presence. With the Miqra of Taruwah coming up upon us, we are reminded that we shall be snatched away from all these troubles at the appropriate time. Exciting as it is, I also worry that I may be left behind for being the imperfect person that I am and I worry about my brother and sister and their families too. I know that it is just a fear -- false evidence appearing real -- but I suppose that it is part of being human. Many messianics whom I have met also still seem to be in the dark about the meaning of Taruwah, and claim that it will only happen after the all the horrible troubles have reached a zenith. Many seem to know how to celebrate Taruwah but do not fully understand why. The full extent of this Miqra seems alien to them as explained by Yada and KP on this site, and I am only too glad to share this aspect with them.

That said, it is not critical for everyone to know and they may even enjoy the surprise even better. Our Tour Guide shall be most appreciated in any case! So even as our fellow man continues to subjugate the spirit of man for their benefit, they shall be rebuked strongly in due time. Our work is to try and sow the seeds of hope according to the Word so that those whom He has called out may hear His message and walk in His way. In so doing, we partake of His Work of Salvation, and rejoice even if it is not really us doing it but Himself. So on the lighter side, focus on what can be changed and be happy, rather than be distracted by what cannot be changed. The homosexuals will be with us till the end as was in Sodon and Gomorrah, even as the Muslims look forward to their reward in their heaven with their perpetual virgins and young boys. In the end, Creator Elohim Yahweh will make things right again anyway.
The reverence of Yahweh is the beginning of Wisdom.
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#43 Posted : Friday, October 24, 2008 8:24:21 PM(UTC)
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Although this story is taking place in the UK, I thought I'd add it to this thread. From the BBC:

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Lesbian couples 'could have own baby'

Lesbian couples may be able to have a baby that shares both their genes following a new technique pioneered in the US.

Scientists at the Reproductive Genetics Institute in Chicago have devised a way to create "artificial sperm" from any cell in a woman's body which can be used to fertilise another woman's egg.

The new method is already being tested on human eggs and could be available in as little as 18 months' time.

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#44 Posted : Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:29:42 AM(UTC)
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Nero’s father, Cnaeus Domitius, was said to have looked at his son’s bloodline and remarked to his wife Agrippina, “No good man can possibly be born from us.” I'd be inclined to say the same of these two. Good grief.

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#45 Posted : Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:24:59 PM(UTC)
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yeah, i think i literally got a lil sick after reading some of that. had to click away from the page. my goodness.
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#46 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:37:54 AM(UTC)
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California Elementary School Parents Blindsided by Homosexual “Coming Out Day”
Discovery of homosexual event at school lends steam to pro-marriage Proposition 8 campaign

SACRAMENTO, October 23, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Parents of students attending an elementary school in Hayward, California, are in a frenzy after learning the school allegedly made no effort to inform them their children were to participate in today's homosexual "Coming Out Day" school event, reports the Pacific Justice Institute (PJI), a legal firm specializing in the defense of religious freedoms and parental rights.

Parents of children at Faith Ringgold School of Art and Science were shocked to see a poster announcing the homosexual event, as they had not received any previous notification. In fact, according PJI, the school specifically decided not to inform parents ahead of time.

...

Faith Ringgold seems to have set the promotion of the homosexual agenda as a priority on its 2008 calendar, as several other pro-homosexual events are slated in the coming weeks.

For instance, several parents have noticed numerous posters around the school promoting talks on the family scheduled for later this week; all of the posters, however, depict only homosexual "families." As well, On November 20, the school will host TransAction Gender-Bender Read-Aloud, where students will hear adapted tales such as "Jane and the Beanstalk."

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#47 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2008 1:16:03 PM(UTC)
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Gay marriage activists protest Mormons online, in streets
By Nicole Neroulias

NEW YORK -- Angered by last week's passage of Proposition 8 that reversed California's same-sex marriage ruling, gay rights activists have taken their battle to the blogosphere and to the streets, targeting the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) for encouraging Mormons to bankroll the Yes on 8 campaign...

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Offline edStueart  
#48 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2008 4:14:49 PM(UTC)
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Yada wrote:
Although this story is taking place in the UK, I thought I'd add it to this thread. From the BBC:

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Why doesn't the woman on the left side of the picture just have a baby with the dude (wearing glasses) on the right side of the picture?

Edited by user Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:30:25 AM(UTC)  | Reason: to drop in the picture of the lovely couple

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But first, it will piss you off!
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#49 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2008 11:37:38 PM(UTC)
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edStueart wrote:
Why doesn't the woman on the left side of the picture just have a baby with the dude (wearing glasses) on the right side of the picture?


lol coz he is a she? ;)
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Offline Yada  
#50 Posted : Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:00:34 PM(UTC)
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From CNN:

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March for gay rights 1:30
Supporters of gay rights took to the streets of Chicago to voice their opinions.


I `loved` the sign one of the protestors was holding up: `Love is Love.`

Now, there`s a thought.
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