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Offline Icy  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:53:13 AM(UTC)
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Either that, or they changed thier results so that it wouldn't cause widespread panic. But, a 13 yr old corrected them:Schoolboy proves NASA wrong

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BERLIN (AFP) - A 13-year-old German schoolboy corrected NASA's estimates on the chances of an asteroid colliding with Earth, a German newspaper reported Tuesday, after spotting the boffins had miscalculated.

Nico Marquardt used telescopic findings from the Institute of Astrophysics in Potsdam (AIP) to calculate that there was a 1 in 450 chance that the Apophis asteroid will collide with Earth, the Potsdamer Neuerster Nachrichten reported.

NASA had previously estimated the chances at only 1 in 45,000 but told its sister organisation, the European Space Agency (ESA), that the young whizzkid had got it right.

The schoolboy took into consideration the risk of Apophis running into one or more of the 40,000 satellites orbiting Earth during its path close to the planet on April 13 2029.

Those satellites travel at 3.07 kilometres a second (1.9 miles), at up to 35,880 kilometres above earth -- and the Apophis asteroid will pass by earth at a distance of 32,500 kilometres.

If the asteroid strikes a satellite in 2029, that will change its trajectory making it hit earth on its next orbit in 2036.

Both NASA and Marquardt agree that if the asteroid does collide with earth, it will create a ball of iron and iridium 320 metres (1049 feet) wide and weighing 200 billion tonnes, which will crash into the Atlantic Ocean.

The shockwaves from that would create huge tsunami waves, destroying both coastlines and inland areas, whilst creating a thick cloud of dust that would darken the skies indefinitely.

The 13-year old made his discovery as part of a regional science competition for which he submitted a project entitled: "Apophis -- The Killer Astroid."
Offline Robskiwarrior  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:21:01 AM(UTC)
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what an awesome little kid! Well done him. kinda dramatically reduces the odds though eh...
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Offline Yada  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:51:29 AM(UTC)
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This was very informative - thanks Icy.
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Offline Sator  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:20:45 PM(UTC)
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Hi,
New info:

http://www.theregister.c...choolboy_apophis_denial/

The wiki has some interested stuff on the 'space mission" and competition to put a tacking device on the apophis, should be interesting!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99...#Potential_space_mission

You'll have to copy and paste the 2nd link, looks like the format doesn't like the # sign

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Offline Robskiwarrior  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:58:00 PM(UTC)
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Swalchy wrote:


Actually, it increases the odds of Apophis hitting the planet. :)

I'm going to go with: it will hit the planet


yea I was meaning reducing the odds of it missing...
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Offline Icy  
#6 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:36:55 AM(UTC)
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Well, NASA originally had some pretty high odds of the thing hitting the planet, but then they changed. Why did they change? I think it is because they do not want people freaking out.

Then, you get this boy that says, "Hey idiots, you were pretty much right the first time." But, now we have that being disputed so that people will not panic again.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:24:16 AM(UTC)
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What I found strange was that the concern is that Apophis will hit a satellite the first time and the trajectory gets changed and guarantees a hit on it's return. So in 2012 an unmanned (home grown) space probe will launch and 'shadow' Apophis for almost a year. That's kind of like a police car and suspect on a car chase. It never ends well. How scary is that.

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Offline kp  
#8 Posted : Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:00:46 AM(UTC)
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So let me see if I've got this right. We see a big killer asteroid on the horizon, with "X" probability of it hitting the earth. So we're going to send a space probe up to study it---built by the lowest bidder. I can smell this one coming. We'll get too close, nudge the thing, and change its path to a dead-on collision course with the rock we're living on. What's Locard's Principle? You can't observe something without changing it.

It might help to review the prophetic aspect of this thing. If we can extrapolate from the scriptural clues, 99942 Apophis, arriving on Friday, April 13, 2029, will be the cause of the third trumpet judgment: "Then the third angel sounded: And a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the water, because it was made bitter." (Revelation 8:10-11) I therefore expect it to (1) be high in sulfur content, (2) not hit the earth's surface directly but break up in the atmosphere (sort of like the Tunguska event of 1908 did), (3) spread its poisonous contents over a wide swath of the earth's surface, affecting rain and eventually ground water sources, and (4) strike after the nuclear phase of World War III (Trumpet judgment #1), after the Las Palmas volcano erupts (TJ#2), but before the sunlight level reduction (the "Nuclear Winter" effect) precipitated by the nuclear war of TJ#1 has had a chance to spread over the whole northern hemisphere. In other words, these four events are going to happen within a very short span of time. The early months of 2029 are not going to be a good time to be a resident of planet Earth.

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