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Offline real  
#1 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:55:27 AM(UTC)
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Prophecy of BRITAIN, UNITED STATES and ISRAEL



Before getting started let me make the following statement. From Abraham until now is about 6,000 years. When God blessed Abraham, many times for being faithful, God said that his descendants would spread into many nations. After the 12 tribes were blessed they almost immediately began to spread out. Many people think this applies only to the white races. In 6,000 through migration and marriage they include the brown, yellow, black as well as the white races and cover nearly every country of the world. Make no mistake, God blessed a race of people, nearly 6,000 years ago, the Israelites, who now number into the hundreds of millions, but some future nations received better blessings than others, as you will see. At the time when the 12 tribes were blessed, there were only two kinds of people, The Israelites who followed in God's ways, and pagans, who did not.

This is the first article I wrote, which I started quite a number of years ago. A number of other articles are very closely related to it.




How can that be? The United States - the most powerful nation on earth today, defeated. Israel in captivity - again? Britain captured for the first time in 2000 years? Yes all of this to take place in perhaps in the next 15 to 20 years! But Britain the United States and Israel can still save themselves if only they will REPENT. But time is short, - VERY SHORT. Are you willing to risk captivity?. Many of your loved one's will die, or be placed or sold into slavery. This is all prophesied in the Bible. Both Daniel and Revelation were sealed until the time of the end. Now, our time, and in the very near future. One of the tricks used in the Bible was to state something, and then a few verses later would repeat the same story using different words to make it look like two events. The second is only to help explain the event. Another method was to finish the story in a different book, or you needed a different book to complete it or for a reference. Some were much more difficult....


The rest can be found here: http://www3.sympatico.ca...leprophecy/prophecy.html

As I did not write this article the words lord and jesus appear in it. I copied and pasted it as I learned alot when I studied the body of this Canadians work and I would like to get some input from others on the sight as to what you think about it. Thanks real

Edit: Think it's a bit long to post the entire thing on here, so I linked to the page it's come from. Thanks for finding this real - it looks very interesting. Swalchy, Mod Team
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#2 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:23:03 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Swalchy I read this website for about a year and it was real eye opener I also emailed with the writter who is a Canadian understands the sabbeth and the Migra and who also doesn't sell anything or attend any church. my only wish is at that time I would have known about Yada Yahweh website as I could have given him a heads up on a few things. I will tell you if anyone reads his website and can get around words like Bible , Jesus , Lord ,and Christian I think you will also belive as I do America, the United Kingdom , Denmark, Austrailia , and others are in fact Isreal. Juda is part of Isreal but we are Isreal making it really all the more sad that we no longer honor the word of scripture. Thanks again Swalchy and would really like to get your thoughts upon reading it.
Offline bitnet  
#3 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:12:46 PM(UTC)
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This looks like a read from the United States and Britain in Prophecy by Herbert Armstrong, a very interesting book to read as it does seem to explain very well the parts of Scripture that seem unfulfilled but which should have been fulfilled. I actually have a copy of that book somewhere and it is more than 20 years old. However, I have remembered the parts about the promises, the suggested identities of the lost tribes and their role in the coming years. And I am not discounting what was written at all. It is still in the back of my mind and I am trying to put it all together with what Yada and KP have written thus far. Personally to verify the idea, more study has to be done with the proper translations and not just the KJV or derivatives.

At the same time, we do know today and can confirm through genetics that the first disapora was incredibly wide, with a tribe even reaching the southernmost part of the African continent. The idea that the tribes of Dan (in Denmark), Reuben, Ephraim, Manasseh, etc. being in Western Europe and the USA, is also remarkable and, history notwithstanding about why some claims were made about Davidic ancestry for profit and domination, begs some thought today about how Yahweh fulfills some temporal promises.

I have also wondered at how the USA could be brought low as a superpower and the answer is simple: natural disasters. Just one mid-sized Yellowstone eruption or a series of earthquakes would put the USA out of the power game and affect the whole continent's ecology and economy. As the repercussions of losing their own homes come back to haunt them, the remnant of the USA will perhaps realise then that it was futile to fight for peace or compromise the tribe of Judah out of their land in modern Israel. Also with the land is poisoned, Americans and Canadians have to move back to the old continent and subject themselves to the laws of the EU, which themselves would have been stretched economically by the catastrophe. All this is conjecture at this point but there must be a reckoning and Hoshea does seem to have plenty to prophesy. I think more study is required.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2008 6:12:11 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the input bitnet I realize some of the article is opinion ( like America and England being in bondage ) but here is thougt , through the use of P C in places like Canada , U S and England perhaps we are in the worst bondage that one could really imagine. I mean its one thing to lose a debate its another to not be allowed to have that debate .
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#5 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:08:13 PM(UTC)
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Real, uh... just to point out... the USA and the UK are in bondage! That is not an opinion but is fact! Sad but true. They have sold themselves for mammon. And it is only going to get worse when someone else picks up the tab later on!
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:30:22 PM(UTC)
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bitnet as it happens I agree with your statement , socialist spending programs ( at least here in the US ) have been used to kill the individual spirit that is in people. I no longer vote as I do not believe in any form of any man made government however it never ceases to amaze me that the political parties can get people to walk out in lock step to the middle of town square with their hands moving in and out of their pockets at regular intervals. Having said that I do not believe that there is such a thing as a government anywhere on this earth that follows the teaching of Yahweh and until Yeshua returns we never will.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:39:06 AM(UTC)
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I agree, real.
Offline rs  
#8 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:35:49 AM(UTC)
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We love to bash our government for spending programs like healthcare and social security but then when it comes time to care for elderly relatives or others with special needs we are AWOL. I don't think there is any problem with a nation deciding to combine resources and care for those who slip through the cracks. Think how much of the Torah relates to national identity and strict calls for the care of widows, orphans, and even sojourners(illegal aliens?).

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#9 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2008 6:13:43 AM(UTC)
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rs, I didn't think about those programs, and I agree those are good things our government does, but there is so much more that is not. Do a search for Aaron Russo's "Freedom to Facisim" documentary. I think it is probably still on YouTube.
Offline bitnet  
#10 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2008 12:42:47 AM(UTC)
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Hello All,

I'd very much appreciate financial assistance programs for the elderly, infirmed, orphans, abused, etc. It is the right thing to do. But how do you do it rightly? By taking unashamedly from those with little to spare? I don't want to sound like a commie but should not the richer be giving more to these causes?

I remember reading about an American millionaire who left his wealth to several charities. During his time on earth he also gave as well as he could, but his legacy was that he showed how to live well while helping others live. I forgot his name but I do remember that he did not travel first class, that he took the subway, that he did not spend his wealth on ostentation. Instead, he chose to give as much away as he could. Why? Because he only needed so much to live reasonably well and the rest could be well spent for others to have a decent meal, decent clothes or a decent life.

I put it to you to think about this for a moment: if all the world's top billionaires gave everything away except US$100 million which they keep for themselves, what do you think the money can do? If all the governments stop spending on weapons and channeled the money into agriculture and environment-conscious development? If all corporations worldwide profiting US$100 million or higher per annum gave just 10 per cent of their profits to help establish centers for the homeless and the sick or for clothing and education?

Much will happen when Yisra'el and Yahuwdah walk together again, and then the world will see a huge difference as the Kingdom of Yahweh is established worldwide.
The reverence of Yahweh is the beginning of Wisdom.
Offline bitnet  
#11 Posted : Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:25:11 PM(UTC)
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Shalom All,

On another note, again related to Yisra'el and Yahuwdah in the last days, I am wondering if anyone here sees a connection between the lost tribes and modern day Israel? We do know that Israel today are the remnant of Benyahmin, Yahuwdah and Levi and not the lost tribes. Yet, if I am not wrong end-time prophecy is aimed at both Yisra'el and Yahuwdah. If Scripture is read with this precept, then the words of Yahushua, Dani'el (Daniel), Y'khezqel (Ezekiel), Yir'mi'yahu (Jeremiah), Y'shayahu (Isaiah), Mikhah (Micah), Mal'akhi (Malachi), Z'kharyah (Zechariah), Ts'phanyah (Zephaniah), Yo'el (Joel), Hoshea (Hosea) and the rest of the prophets including Paul take on a slightly different skew!

The following passages from Y'khezqel (Ezekiel) are especially relevant as it concerns the unification of all tribes, all children of the promise:

Eze 37:16 'And thou, son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it: For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions; then take another stick, and write upon it: For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and of all the house of Israel his companions;
Eze 37:17 and join them for thee one to another into one stick, that they may become one in thy hand.
Eze 37:18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying: Wilt thou not tell us what thou meanest by these?
Eze 37:19 say into them: Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his companions; and I will put them unto him together with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in My hand.
Eze 37:20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thy hand before their eyes.
Eze 37:21 And say unto them: Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, whither they are gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land;
Eze 37:22 and I will make them one nation in the land, upon the mountains of Israel, and one king shall be king to them all; and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all;
Eze 37:23 neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will save them out of all their dwelling-places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them; so shall they be My people, and I will be their God.
Eze 37:24 And My servant David shall be king over them, and they all shall have one shepherd; they shall also walk in Mine ordinances, and observe My statutes, and do them.
Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob My servant, wherein your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, they, and their children, and their children's children, for ever; and David My servant shall be their prince for ever.
Eze 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them - it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will establish them, and multiply them, and will set My sanctuary in the midst of them for ever.
Eze 37:27 My dwelling-place also shall be over them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
Eze 37:28 And the nations shall know that I am the LORD that sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for ever.'

We must remember that the Great Commission given to the apostles was to go to the world and the 12 tribes of Israel and speak about the coming Kingdom of Yahweh.
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