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Offline Yada  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:16:20 AM(UTC)
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Below is an exchange between GR and Yada. Yada's comments follow the quoted portions of the original e-mail:


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From: GR
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:39 PM
To: 'email@ProphetofDoom.net'
Subject: Shalom Yada!


Shalom U’vracha Yada.

I am a believer in YaHWeH and talmid of Yeshua (or Yahushua) h’Mashiyach. I grew up in a home where we acknowledged the existence of The Creator two times a year…I’m sure there is no need to elaborate.


Renewal and Redemption to you, GR,

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As one who also knows Yahuweh and relies upon Yahushua, we are brothers, both Yahuwdym (related to Yah). I too was raised in a “Christian” household and yet in spite of this, still found the Way home.

As a product of the public school system and the California State university system, I became an evolutionist and an agnostic. After 30 years of sin and self focus, my humanistic belief system was challenged by a Christian man. I took a sincere look into the scriptures and the Christian faith, then I began an honest examination of my own materialistic/Darwinian belief system. As you may have guessed, I came to realize that naturalistic explanations are flawed and insufficient, and that “The Bible” contained too many proofs to be ignored. So I became a “Bible carrying, Sunday Worshipping, Evangelical Protestant”.


My good friend and webmaster took a similar path. He was raised Catholic, but then rejected the religion when priests couldn’t answer reasonable questions. He became a very well informed and educated atheist and then an agnostic. He also recognized the flaws you articulated in Darwinian belief systems, and came to a relationship with Yahweh after we discussed what God actually revealed as opposed to what religions had to say about Him. The truth once known could not be ignored. Yahweh proves He inspired His Word and that He is the Creator and Savior.

I was once as you have described yourself in your parting sentence.

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I began studying the reformers and soon realized that while the Roman Catholic establishment was corrupt and evil, our Protestant churches were only slightly better.


All of this is true. I only wish others knew it—especially the last part.

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I started to look into the Hebraic roots of the Christian faith and to my shock, I realized that much of what I believed (and practiced) was dripping in paganism. Over the last couple years, I began seeking information from those within the Messianic community. I realized that YHWH was the Elohim of Avram, Yitzchak and Ya’akov…Not Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. That Mashiyach who IS the physical manifestation of Elohim was never called by the name “Jesus Christ”. I came to understand that He did not abolish the Torah and that Sunday Worship did not replace His Seventh Day Shabbat. I learned that Christmas and Easter are so blatantly pagan that I am ashamed to have ever taken part in them.


We came to the same unavoidable conclusion from a different place. Hebraic roots were less compelling to me than the Word. I simply wanted to know what Yahweh revealed. By doing so I learned what you have shared. There is only one Covenant in Scripture. Yahweh’s important days are the Miqra’ and Sabbath because they explain everything we need to know about his plan and timing.

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I came to understand that YaHWeH did not do away with His dietary laws and “thus declare all foods clean”. Swine flesh and shrimp are poison to the human system. At the same time, He did not say that I could not have a cheese burger. The meat/milk restriction was clearly part of the Rabbinical oral law (Talmud) and is not found in His scriptures. So in my quest for truth I have tried to be careful not to become Rabbinical. I now understand that His Moedim are prophetic gifts and should not have been replaced with pagan celebrations.


The Rabbis are why I am careful to distinguish between Scriptural and Hebraic roots. Rabbinical Judaism is as much a corruption of the Word as is Catholicism, and Rabbis have done their utmost to claim to be Hebraic.

The Miqra’ Moedym are in fact prophetic gifts. They explain the means and timing of our salvation. They are central to our understanding.

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I found Prophet of Doom quite some time ago, and I must commend you on your work. I am also pleased by your expression of love to those enslaved in the religion of Islam. Your website is a compassionate balance of truth and love.


Thank you. Yahweh asked me to write it for the reason you have expressed. Moreover, it leads many people to Yada Yahweh.

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Recently while exploring your site I came across Yada YaHWeH and have just begun to read it (I am on the 3rd chapter). I must confess that my head is reeling and the questions come flying into my mind faster than I can write them down. I have studied Paleo and Modern (Babylonian) Hebrew so I have a basic working knowledge of the language. I do not have the time, nor the resources to conduct the sort of study that you have done.


I am pleased that you are reading Yada Yahweh. Please send your questions and constructive criticisms to me. It too is a labor of love. I don’t claim to be qualified, just willing.

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The reason for this email is many. I am not going to start asking a bunch of questions right now. I am making the assumption that most of my questions will be answered as I proceed through your book.


I wrote the first two volumes of the book very late in the process so I was aware of what you will discover as you read further. But if a question isn’t answered in a timely fashion, please let me know and I’ll try to address it. In compiling the book I have tried not to distract the reader by verifying everything at one time, but instead tackling subjects as they arise.

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But I must confess, the more I read, the more depressed I become. I am saddened by the lie that has been perpetuated on so many unsuspecting people. I am also experiencing a sense of hopelessness. How can anyone be saved? I am trying to come to grips with the fact that so many will be lost.


I sometimes share your perspective, saddened that religious lies are so enormous, pervasive, and destructive. Most have been and will continue to be lost as a consequence. And while we are beyond the hope of national salvation, there is always individual hope. You came to know Yahweh and so did I. Others have and will too.

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Can you help me to understand how so many who trust “Jesus” for their salvation, and who love “the Lord” with all of their hearts will be cast away?


That’s not my responsibility. My job and yours is to know the truth and to share it. Yahweh has detailed the path to salvation—to redemption, renewal, rebirth, and adoption. He has made it perfectly clear.

I’m not in the judgment business as it pertains to determining who will find death to be the end of life. I can’t tell you how wrong a person can be with their religion and faith and still be considered right. I can’t tell you how errant a person’s view of God can be before their god becomes a false one. But I can tell you what Yahweh said, what He promised, and what He did—and that’s all that really matters.

That said, I can tell you that Jesus Christ isn’t the Messiyah’s name, that God isn’t a name, and that Lord is Satan’s title. I can tell you that Christmas and Easter are pagan, as is Sunday worship. I can tell you that the seven Miqra’ are central to knowing Yahweh as is the Sabbath and Torah. But you already know these things.

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While I agree that He wants us to know Him by His true name and to be in a relationship with Him, isn’t it within His nature to love and forgive?


Yahweh explains the basis of His forgiveness and He conveys the traits shared by those He has forgiven and adopted into His family. The moment we as mortal humans base forgiveness on our perceptions of what God should do, and how He should do it, we become religious. Don’t go there.

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Especially those who desire to walk closely to Him but do not know what you know? Is it not His nature to hold people accountable to their level/ability to understand? Isn’t this the point Rav Sha’ul makes when He says that no man is with excuse and that God is evident in nature?


Yahweh is in the judgment business, not me, so I’m not the right person to ask. From what I’ve read, I think that God does hold people accountable based upon their understanding to a certain degree. But ignorance isn’t bliss. Yahweh said: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowing.”

In context, Sha’ul/Paul is condemning secular humanists, atheist scientists, religious leaders and politicians. I cover this passage in several places in the book.

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A perfect example is my wonderful wife. She grew up in a Protestant home, so much of what I have shown her in regards to the pagan origins of Christianity has been uncomfortable for her. I have not shared your book with her yet, because I want to investigate it for myself first. I know that when I show these things to her it is going to shake her to her core. But from what I see she loves Avinu (our Father) so much and desires to dwell with him in His Malkut (kingdom).


Your wife is like my own in many ways. I would like her to share my passion for Yahweh and His Word but it’s her choice, not mine.

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So she will be dissipated simply because she does not know that she has been lied to? How is that possible? Doesn’t this contradict the very nature of God? And if so, why(or how) would a sovereign, All Mighty God allow so many to be mislead? Isn’t His will/desire that none should parish but that all should come to teshuvah (repentance) and to yada Him?


Yahweh has done all of the work for us to live with Him. He has told us how to get there. He made it possible because He wants us to find Him, to know Him, to revere Him, to rely upon Him, to trust Him. And yet because you love your wife, you want Him to change His way for her. How is that fair?

If He were to do this for your wife, He would need to do it for everyone’s wife. In so doing, He would eliminate free will, choice, and consequence. He would moot His Word, performances, and promises.

There is a consequence to man’s religious and political corruptions. There is a reason Yahushua said: The way to destruction is broad and many there are who find it. And the way to life is narrow, and few find it. Consequence is a requirement of choice and choice is a requirement of love.

It’s not so much about what Yahweh wants, although this explains His motivations, but about what He communicated, promised, and did. Focus on these things, not on how far away from them you can stretch His forgiveness. For good reason, Yahweh does not say, and you will not know in this life, how wrong a person can be and still be considered right with God.

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And what about those who simply don’t have the intellect or the ability to know Him in the way that you have? Most do not have a library like yours, nor do they have access to the early manuscripts.


Life itself is a gift. Even those who don’t know Yahweh get to live for some time, however brief it may be. And death at the end of life isn’t a penalty. Only those who lead people away from God suffer.

Intellect is seldom a blessing. It usually leads to arrogance and self reliance. Yah’s message is shared in such a way that even the simple of mind have the capacity to know and choose God.

Don’t be quick to excuse the masses. I’m nobody special. I haven’t been granted a unique access to things. My library costs less than an old car or new TV. It’s a matter of prioritizing what’s important.

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It is with a sincere and humble heart that I ask you these questions. I desperately desire to yada YaHWeH and for Him to know me intimately. But, can you see why I am experiencing a state of hopelessness
?

I appreciate your willingness to share your feelings. My prayer is that as you grow in the knowledge of the Word, you will grow from “hopelessness” to celebration. Yahweh’s message is the fulfillment of hope—the promise of eternal life, camping out with our Creator, adopted into His family as His children. That’s as good as it gets, especially since He did everything necessary for us to enjoy these things.

In other words, focus on His promises, not on the consequence of human error.

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As I desire to know Him more, I believe Avinu has been faithful in revealing Himself to me. I believe He led out of “The Church”, that He has led me to your book and that He is showing me even more. While I consider my heart open to his leading (as evidenced by my rejection of pagan Christianity) this journey is not comfortable. I desire to walk closely with Him, even into the fire if necessary.


The truth is not popular. Yahweh is not popular. By choosing Him you won’t be popular.

But Yahweh is the Truth and those who earnestly seek Him, find Him. Moreover, based upon what I’ve read and experienced, He does lead certain individuals to Him. It’s His prerogative. You are a beneficiary. The only question is: what are you going to do about it? Are you going to continue to invest the time to know Yahweh as He really is and lead others to Him? Are you going to join me in exposing and condemning the religions of Christianity, Islam, and Socialist Secular Humanism before they claim even more souls?

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On to another quick question. Can you tell me a little about how you came to the faith and understanding that you have? I like to know a little something about someone who I am learning from. Especially considering the significance of the subject matter. What inspired you to dive so deep?


It’s best if I remain nothing more than a conduit. Too often today messengers are confused with the message. I am irrelevant. I am unworthy. I am only useful because I’m willing. I am used because the Boss likes to work with flawed passionate people who recognize that they are useless without Him. This is the reason why I have included the Hebrew and Greek basis for the translations and amplification in the text itself, and why I’ve put Yah’s Word in bold and my commentary on it in a standard font.

That said, my motivation for leaving evangelical Christianity was reason. The Church’s position on many important things isn’t rational, baseless, and untrue. When I was compelled to differentiate Muhammad’s message from the bible he was plagiarizing and bastardizing, I found countless errors in English translations. And yet when I looked into the Hebrew or Greek words which formed the basis of the translations, I found profound truth. One lie led to a discovery, and so on until there was a seven volume book of discoveries.

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I get headaches when reading, and I appreciate the audio that you have provided in the first few chapters. Any plan to continue it through the entire book? Also, I noticed that Chapter 10 “Yisra’el” has not yet been posted. Any idea when you will be updating the book to include it?


It requires about a half hour to record and edit a page of written material this dense. So while we will record and post more of the book over time, most of the new audio will be topical and simplified. I’ve recorded one on Yahweh’s name recently and it’s being edited now. My hope is to record a thirty minute audio segment each week on Scripture, one on Islam, and one on current events.

It will be some time before Yisra’el is edited and posted. Currently I’m trying to edit the whole book from beginning to end in hopes of printing small quantities.

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Thank you for making your book available, and I hope that this might be the beginning of a dialogue between us. I have much to learn and I know I will have questions when I am finished.


I don’t spend much time answering email these days now that we have a Yada Yahweh Forum. The moderator is a good friend and brother who I’ve met via email and he and his team do a great job answering questions and providing fellowship. Please consider joining in.

In fact, he will probably post this exchange anonymously in hopes that it will help others struggling with the same question. We get asked it a lot.

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But if I could bug you with one last question: Scripture is clear that we should not forsake fellowship with other believers….considering what you know (and what is being revealed to me) how do we fellowship and serve when even the Messianic Fellowships don’t agree? The only fellowship in my area does not use His name out of reverence. They call Him “h’Shem” or “Adonai’, but never YaHWeH. I am curious to know how you solve the problem of fellowship (with other believers) and service to Him?


The first step for us was posting the book online and establishing the website. The second step was the Yada Yahweh Forum. The third step for us will be interactive online radio, which we will launch later this year. The fourth step for us will be Sabbath Scripture Studies which will be based on university campuses. There is much we hope to do. And there is much you can do, with us or independently. Together or apart we serve the same Boss and are part of the same family.

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Yada I want to thank you for your time. I appreciate it more than you know.

B’shem Yeshua H’Mashiyach

GR


You are welcome GR. I appreciate your letter. Very few people come to the Yada Yahweh site with the understanding you already have. I hope this grows and that you join us in exposing lies while witnessing to the Truth.

In Yahweh’s Name,

Yada

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Offline bitnet  
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:47:11 PM(UTC)
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What a lovely post, Yada. As for GR's concerns about the masses, I have yet to prove it but there seems to be a resurrection of the masses to a physical life where they shall be taught of Yahweh by His appointed servants during the Millenium. Yahweh will know whom to keep alive for re-learning and whom to dissipate, otherwise why bother with a physical resurrection. But like I said, wait till I find the supporting scriptures as this would indeed make Yahweh's love and grace be even more incredibly Good!
The reverence of Yahweh is the beginning of Wisdom.
Offline Yada  
#3 Posted : Friday, January 18, 2008 8:24:21 PM(UTC)
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This is an exchange between MW and Yada. After responding, Yada copied and pasted the original exchange between himself and GR (that e-mail is the initial post of this thread).

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From: MW
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:39 AM
To: email@YadaYahweh.com
Subject: RE: hello again


Hi Yada,

Thanks for responding. You know as I read this fantastic work of yours I cannot help but wonder what someone would do without this. I mean I could not have figured this stuff out on my own and more than likely would have just been deceived by religious circles having turned to them for help. According to what I have read so far the bible is full of errant translations, deceptive transliterations, ommisions, changes and out right lies. I have so many questions about the things I have read thus far but I certainly dont expect you to answer them as I am sure that you are busy. But I do have one that I would like some insight on if you dont mind. What is to come of all the people who are the decent upstanding Sunday church going decieved (Christian, Catholic, Muslim etc. ). I read that you are planning to, time permitting to write a book God Damn Religion—Satan’s Curse from Babylon to Bush. Please let me know when you manage that.

Thanks again,

MW



MW,

Thank you for the encouraging words, but I didn’t figure anything out on my own. All I did was invest the time to learn what Yahweh actually revealed. His Word and His Spirit did the rest. All it required was a willingness to engage.

As for writing God Damn Religion—Satan’s Curse from Babylon to Bush, it’s is going to come after I finish editing YY, update POD, compile and post regular weekly audio commentaries on topical events, on Scripture, and on Islam, start an interactive online radio program, and launch Sabbath Scripture Studies on college campuses. There is a great deal to do.

To answer your question, Yahweh is clear on three things. Those who come to know Him and love Him, those who understand His Word as He revealed it, those who use His name, who observe the Sabbath and Miqra’, who trust and rely upon Him, who are born anew from above by the Set-Apart Spirit and are adopted into His family, get to campout with Him for all eternity. Those who lead others away from Him through religious, political, societal, or academic deceptions will spend eternity separated from Yahweh in the Abyss—a lightless place where only time exists. Those who are victimized by these misguided people, those who put their trust in the religions and political schemes of men, those who through apathy or choice don’t come to know Yahweh, will simply cease to exist upon death. For them there will be no punishment and no reward. Death will be the end of life.

These things we know because Yahweh told them to us. What you are asking is: how false can someone’s belief system be for them to still be right with God? And for good reason, Yahweh doesn’t say, and I’m the wrong person to ask—as is any man. Only God can answer that question and He chose not to.

So, we are equipped with three known answers, choices, consequences, and destinations. We can know and rely on Yahweh’s promises regarding them. That is as good as it is going to get on the mortal side of our existence.

Another emailer wrote me a few days ago with a similar question. So as to not repeat the same answer, I’d like to share my reply to him with you.

Here it is…

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