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Offline newnature  
#1 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:07:52 PM(UTC)
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Who in the world are those involved in religion asking for forgiveness? From God! Therefore the assumption is, God’s not reconciled when they sin. In their mind they are separating themselves from God by their sin. Justification...Redemption...Propitiation...Remission...and Forbearance...all terms God wants people to acknowledge, to become familiar with, and to come to fully appreciate. Never make the mistake of thinking that these terms all mean the same thing. They do not. Each one has a distinct meaning all its own. Oftentimes, people will look at these terms and sort of lump them all together under a heading called forgiveness. 


To many people are trying to Christianize the flesh. One should never drive the train from emotions, but there are denominations living in the caboose, driving the train from the emotion standpoint, not living it from the doctrinal standpoint. But think about this: Is forgiveness the same thing as being justified or having someone else’s righteousness freely attributed to their account? They are not one and the same. The human race’s sins have all been forgiven, but forgiveness alone does not mean the person having forgiveness is as perfectly and totally righteous as the one who is doing the forgiving.
Offline Heretic Steve  
#2 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 5:41:02 PM(UTC)
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The Christian religion is a bust, as is all religion as religion guarantees the annihilation of conciousness or the preservation of conciousness as one endures eternal incarceration.
All the various terms you mentioned may very well be summed by one - Towrah.
If not us, who? If not now, when?
Offline InHisName  
#3 Posted : Thursday, March 2, 2017 12:07:00 PM(UTC)
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Who in the world are those involved in religion ?

>FOOLS.

Who in the world are those involved in religion asking for forgiveness?

>SATAN.

From God!

>NOT YAHOWAH, THE CREATOR AND SAVIOR! BUT THEIR god, SATAN.

Therefore the assumption is, God’s not reconciled when they sin. In their mind they are separating themselves from God by their sin.

> WE ARE SEPARATED FROM YAHOWAH BY OUR SIN. BUT SIN IS PROBABLY NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS.

Justification...Redemption...Propitiation...Remission...and Forbearance...all terms God wants people to acknowledge, to become familiar with, and to come to fully appreciate. Never make the mistake of thinking that these terms all mean the same thing. They do not. Each one has a distinct meaning all its own. Oftentimes, people will look at these terms and sort of lump them all together under a heading called forgiveness.

>THESE ARE TERMS OF MEN, NOT YAHOWAH. PESACH, MATSAH, BIKUWRYM, SHABUWA, TARUWAH AND KIPPURYM ARE THE TERMS YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH.

To many people are trying to Christianize the flesh.

>TO CHRISTIANIZE ANY THING IS A SIN. BTW, YAHOWAH CREATED THE FLESH AND WAS VERY PLEASED WITH IT.

One should never drive the train from emotions, but there are denominations living in the caboose, driving the train from the emotion standpoint, not living it from the doctrinal standpoint.

WHAT? CHOO CHOO

But think about this: Is forgiveness the same thing as being justified or having someone else’s righteousness freely attributed to their account? They are not one and the same. The human race’s sins have all been forgiven, but forgiveness alone does not mean the person having forgiveness is as perfectly and totally righteous as the one who is doing the forgiving.

>RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOT FREE. IT IS EARNED. SIN IS NOT FORGIVEN FOR ALL! SOME WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THEIR SIN FOR ETERNITY, MOST WILL CEASE TO EXIST BECAUSE OF THEIR SIN. ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE EARNED THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS AND RECONCILED THEMSELVES TO YAHOWAH WILL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF MATSAH.

>FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THESE AND OTHER SUBJECTS PLEASE READ, STUDY AND COME TO UNDERSTAND THE TOWRAH (THAT IS THE FRONT PART OF YOUR bible). FOR HELP WITH THIS STUDY, READ YADA YAH AND/OR INTRODUCTION TO GOD. BUT FIRST YOU MIGHT NEED TO SHAKE OFF YOUR CHRISTIAN THINKING WITH A LITTLE QUESTIONING PAUL.

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