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Offline Hermine Dow  
#1 Posted : Saturday, December 21, 2013 8:08:43 AM(UTC)
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In 3-Towrah-Part 1, p. 37 with reference to Ex. 24:17 you make this statement:

"Moreover, the evidence of His appearance here on the summit of this Arabian mountain is still visible."

I'd love to see a footnote, or something, explaining this...what Arabian mountain is it? How can we see the evidence of this today?

You also say 'not a burning bush'...do you expound on this somewhere?
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#2 Posted : Monday, December 23, 2013 7:21:59 AM(UTC)
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A good video if you are interested is "search for the real mount sinai"

Don't take my word for it, Look it up.

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#3 Posted : Saturday, December 28, 2013 9:45:48 AM(UTC)
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I'll try to find that video. What about 'not a burning bush'...why do you think there was no burning bush?
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#4 Posted : Sunday, December 29, 2013 7:56:27 AM(UTC)
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Saneh, “bush,” and sanah, “high rocky place,” are indistinguishable in the Hebrew text. Yada discusses this a bit in the Salah chapter of YY.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, January 5, 2014 8:40:40 AM(UTC)
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Hermine Dow,

Notice that H5572 and H5573 are spelled exactly the same.

H5572
סנה
seneh
BDB Definition:
1) a bush, thorny bush
1a) the burning bush of Moses
1b) perhaps a blackberry bush
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from an unused root meaning to prick

H5573
סנה
seneh
BDB Definition:
Seneh = “thorny”
1) a rocky height with crags which stood in the passage of Michmash
Part of Speech: noun proper locative

The mountain (Mount Horeb) is called Jebel al Lawz today in Saudi Arabia. Jebel means mountain. I asked a coworker that was born in Saudi Arabia what Lawz meant and he said that it means “Almonds”. So it is called the Mountain of Almonds today. Perhaps because Aaron’s rod sprouted Almond buds and bore ripe almonds or because the Menorah had almond flower shaped bowls.

Num 17:6 And Mosheh spoke to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and all their leaders gave him a rod each, for each leader according to their fathers’ houses, twelve rods. And the rod of Aharon was among their rods.
Num 17:7 So Mosheh placed the rods before יהוה in the Tent of the Witness.
Num 17:8 And it came to be on the next day that Mosheh went into the Tent of the Witness and saw that the rod of Aharon, of the house of Lĕwi, had budded, and brought forth buds, and blossomed and bore ripe almonds.
Num 17:9 And Mosheh brought out all the rods from before יהוה to all the children of Yisra’ĕl. And they looked, and each man took his rod.
Num 17:10 And יהוה said to Mosheh, “Bring Aharon’s rod back before the Witness, to be kept as a sign against the rebels, so that you put an end to their grumblings against Me, lest they die.”

Exo 25:31 “And you shall make a lampstand of clean gold – the lampstand is made of beaten work. Its base and its shaft, its cups, its ornamental knobs and blossoms are from it,
Exo 25:32 and six branches shall come out of its sides: three branches of the lampstand out of one side, and three branches of the lampstand out of the other side;
Exo 25:33 three cups made like almond flowers on one branch, with ornamental knob and blossom, and three cups made like almond flowers on the other branch, with ornamental knob and blossom – so for the six branches coming out of the lampstand.
Exo 25:34 “And on the lampstand itself are four cups made like almond flowers, with ornamental knob and blossom,

Here is the GPS (Google maps) location of Jebel al Lawz: 28.654027,35.305874

BTW if you enter the coordinates like this: 28° 35’ 6.38” N, 35° 21’ 12 .15” E Google maps looses it’s mind and goes to Cancun, Mexico! Coincidence? Or not?

Moses’ well is at 28° 29’ 8.13” N 35° 1’ 8.12” E

Exo 2:16 And the priest of Miḏyan had seven daughters. And they came and drew water, and they filled the troughs to water their father’s flock,
Exo 2:17 but the shepherds came and drove them away. Then Mosheh stood up and came to their rescue, and watered their flock.
Exo 2:18 And they came to Reʽuw’ĕl their father, and he said, “How is it that you have come so soon today?”
Exo 2:19 And they said, “A Mitsrite rescued us from the hand of the shepherds, and he also drew enough water for us and watered the flock.”
Exo 2:20 And he said to his daughters, “And where is he? Why did you leave the man? Call him and let him eat bread.”

Solomon’s Pillar is at 28° 58’ 11.51” N 34° 38’ 33.21” E

Solomon erected a pillar at Nuweiba beach to mark where the Israelites crossed the Gulf of Aqaba part of the Red Sea.

The split rock where water came out is at: 28° 43’ 35.86” N 35° 14’ 10.09” E If you go to those coordicates and click photos on Google maps it will show a photo.

Exo 17:6 “See, I am standing before you there on the rock in Ḥorĕḇ. And you shall smite the rock, and water shall come out of it, and the people shall drink.” And Mosheh did so before the eyes of the elders of Yisra’ĕl.
Exo 17:7 And he called the name of the place Massah and Meriḇah, because of the ‘strife’ of the children of Yisra’ĕl, and because they ‘tried’ יהוה, saying, “Is יהוה in our midst or not?”

The golden calf alter is at 28 34 52.7 N, 35 23 46.22 E You can see that the Saudi’s constructed a fence around it.

Exo 32:4 And he took this from their hand, and he formed it with an engraving tool, and made a moulded calf. And they said, “This is your mighty one, O Yisra’ĕl, that brought you out of the land of Mitsrayim!”
Exo 32:5 And Aharon saw and built an altar before it. And Aharon called out and said, “Tomorrow is a festival to יהוה.”

Jethro’s home is at Al Bad.

Exo 3:1 And Mosheh was shepherding the flock of Yithro his father-in-law, the priest of Miḏyan. And he led the flock to the back of the wilderness, and came to Ḥorĕḇ, the mountain of Elohim.

Moses’ earthen alter is at 28 35 3.87N, 35 22 43.3 E If you go to those coordicates and click photos on Google maps it will show a photo.

Exo 24:4 And Mosheh wrote down all the Words of יהוה, and rose up early in the morning, and built an altar at the foot of the mountain, and twelve standing columns for the twelve tribes of Yisra’ĕl.

Hope this helps. Shalom
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