I am looking in my Scriptures book and Genesis 15:2 has Abram saying "Master YHWH"

However, in reading James' amplified Bereshith it doesn't have the "Master". Is the "Master" in the Masocretic text, but not the DSS? I am just trying to figure out when the "Master" got added. In the Amplified Bible and the KJV it, of course, has "Lord". However, the Amplified Bible will usually indicate when a word was added with italics, but there are no italics around "Lord".

I seem to recall that as an example of many places the Massorettes added adon or adoni (master/lord) to the text as revealed in DSS. Yada even comments that w/oppresive religions often paint God a lord, so people controlled and plundered don't mind as much.

Thanks, this really helps. I actually think when there are choices like "edenay" versus "adonay", both are correct - it just depends on where you are standing. Religious individuals will always see Yahowah as "lord, master, ruler" and will be waiting in anticipation for their "judgement", which they will get. Those in the family was simply be waiting for Daddy.

Imagine a man that has several children, but also works as a judge. A felon awaiting conviction will have a much different view of said man than the kids sitting at the dinner table waiting to tell dad about their day.

Hebrew was absolutely the perfect language for Yahowah to speak to us.

I've been thinking about Yahowsha's ordeal, torture, and death on the upright pole. It is true that the normal sacrificial lamb was offered to Yahowah, on His altar, by slitting the throat, and having the animal die without pain, have certain organs removed, burning all or part of it, and having spilled all of its blood. On the other hand, Yahowsha's ordeal was quite different: torture, not on Yahowah's altar but on a pagan implement, and maybe not even having all of his blood removed. So, it seems that Yahowsha's sacrifice was a different 'kind' than all those Yahowah prescribed -- his seems to be a little more related to the bronze serpent -- which leads me to think that there was some situation in eternity past where God 'agreed' to deliver His 'blood' to the Adversary in order to 'release' us -- or something to that effect. Any ideas?

Here is my take, and I am willing to have people give theirs.

Yahowah went into covenant relationship with Abraham. When the covenant was being sealed, Abraham slept while Yahowah walked the covenant alone. In my understanding of the covenant process, both parties would walk the covenant (walking between a sacrificed animal cut in half, then cooking and eating the animal together) that it showed if either party broke the covenant - that party would have to make a sacrifice involving death, often of a relative (son). Covenants were serious business. Since Yahowah walked the covenant alone, He was taking on the responsibility for either party breaking the covenant. He knew which side would break the covenant (man) and He already had a plan for the redemption of the covenant being broken (Yahowsha').

Yahowsha' was NOT "given over" the adversary, nor was "He" killed on our behalf. His human body was sacrificed on a pillar. The covenant was both spiritual and natural (sands of the sea, stars of the sky), therefore the price for breaking the covenant was both spiritual and natural. The natural was the death of the human body that Yahowsha' lived in - once and done. The spiritual was the separation that Yahowsha' endured.

When considering that Yahowsha' is a Set Apart piece of Yahowah, it is easier for me to understand it in this way. Some person needed to pay the natural/human price for the covenant being broken, to redeem it. Yahowah, not into "human" sacrifice - allowed that Set Apart piece of Himself to go through the process of humanity, be "born of a woman" (whether or not it was a virgin birth I could care less at this point in the conversation). Yahowah walked the covenant alone, Yahowah paid for the covenant alone - through a piece of Himself. For the spiritual aspect - the penalty for the spirits/souls/whatever that become a part of Yahowah's family is to be separated for breaking the covenant. Yahowah took on that penalty as well.

Now, while the penalty was paid, it was only paid for those that are a part of Yahowah's family. The covenant is about relationship and being a part of the everlasting family. The covenant is only with the family line of Abraham. Being a part of the "family" is determined by your Mother (thus Yahowsha' saying one must be "born again"). You must be covered by the Set Apart Spirit so that you can be properly identified as a part of the family, a beneficiary of the covenant. Thus the need to "Honor your Mother and your Father that you days may be long".

That is at least the way I see things at this moment.

That's a great outline. I'm just wondering why there was never a precedent for a "tortured" sacrifice.