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Offline Richard  
#1 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:48:12 AM(UTC)
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One of the brothers and I have a lively debate raging about the "Occupy Wall Street" protests and the issues involved. Because this topic seems to be important to many, I thought I would share our last email exchange and let you folks weigh in with your own thoughts and observations. I have removed my brother's name as a show of respect to him.

UnnamedBrother wrote:

How do people assemble and not be called a, mob? I don't care if G. Soros is or isn't behind this, there are legitimate declarations that need answers here. This protest, even if some believe, it's for bums neglecting their bill, most is not the case, bro.
The system is stacked against the people that the system should be aligned with, not against. Gucci can hire chinese to stand on their feet for 14hrs. How do you compete with that? It's wrong in every way. So do we just turn away our eyes and say, " I'll let God sort 'em out? "


Flintface wrote:

My short answer to your last question is, "No. We don't say, 'I'll let God sort 'em out.' We say, 'Both they and those against whom they protest are going to die in their sins unless they reconsider and turn back to Yahowah. It is my duty to give them warning about that. How they run their day-to-day affairs is none of my concern.' "

I can't understand why you persist with your ideas that linking arms with those who hate Yahowah is what He wants us to do. I don't get it. You are a child of His. You show compassion and put your money where your mouth is. So you obviously have His love living in you. But when will you acknowledge the existence of a very real difference between us and the world, brother? There are legitimate complaints which ought to be addressed. There always will be. When will the masses humble themselves and admit that without the corporations and banks they cry out against, they would have nothing at all? If they are so offended by Gucci exploiting Chinese laborers, then let them stop buying Gucci's products. Without consumers, no corporation will survive. But those screaming out against the greed of others are greedy themselves, so they deserve nothing. No compassion, no help, no respect, nothing. They are all puppets being jerked around by our adversary. They are all deceived. The only thing that matters is that they learn the truth, (name removed). When we are in a position to offer help - food, clothing, shelter - then let us do that on a one-on-one basis. But let us avoid the stubborn, self-righteous mouthings of the so-called peaceful assemblers.

As for protesting in general, how does Yahowah look on it?

Now when the people complained, it displeased Yahowah; for Yahowah heard it, and His anger was aroused. So the fire of Yahowah burned among them, and consumed some in the outskirts of the camp. Then the people cried out to Moseh, and when Moseh prayed to Yahowah, the fire was quenched. So he called the name of the place Burning (Hebrew = Taberah), because the fire of Yahowah had burned among them. Now the mixed multitude [i.e., the gentiles] who were among them yielded to intense craving; so the children of Yisra'el also wept again and said: "Who will give us meat to eat? We remember ... Egypt ..."
Number 11:1-5

It seems to me that He doesn't appreciate protesting, nor do we ever find in Scripture any record of His telling us that protests are okay to take part in. The people did complain with just cause against Solomon's son, but Yahowah stayed out of it as far as I can tell. And their protests fell on deaf ears, just like today's protests are doing and like the protests of my day back in the 60's fell on deaf ears. The corporate leaders and their puppets in various government offices and positions are like certain customer service reps. They pretend they're listening, then they do nothing, collect their paychecks, and go home to their private lives, never giving the problems of their customers, or constituents, or employees, another thought. That's the way it is, and all the whining about how it isn't fair won't change it.

Let me tell you something about us, brother.

Having been homeless 3 times since my 50th birthday, I know on the most personal level how miserable that sort of existence is. For 2 weeks during the Christmas season in 1999, all Christy and I had to eat were the candy corns put out for employees at Toys 'R' Us there on Westheimer. We were cashiers, but we had only the clothes on our backs and were living in a nasty little motel across the street from the Target there by the Astrodome. That is the truth. All we had to eat for two weeks, until we got our first paychecks, was candy corn. To this day, Christy won't eat the stuff ever again. A Christian lady who took a fancy to me at the TEC office had offered us a place to stay, not knowing that Christy and I were married. She thought we were just a couple and that she could win my heart. When that didn't happen, she locked us out of her house, not even opening the door to give us our winter coats. So we froze our asses off for weeks. I know exactly what being hungry and destitute is all about, (name removed). And I give help whenever and however I can. But I also know that there are too many lazy ne'er-do-wells and outright outlaws in the ranks of the poor and homeless, and that their offensive attitudes and actions make life all the more difficult and frustrating for those who through no fault of their own are poor and helpless. Moreover, I know that all the flag-waving, tear-jerking speeches in the world are not going to change anything in any meaningful way for any meaningful length of time. Again, that's just the way it is. History proves it.

So, that is why I insist that we ought to just ignore all that mess and stay focused on walking with Dad, on getting to know Him. We'll be there to offer a helping hand when He brings someone our way if He prospers us, and we'll be grateful to Him for that prosperity. But we will never put our trust in man, not in his sense of humanity and not in his governments.

I love you, too, my brother. Keep it real.

Richard
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#2 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:11:00 PM(UTC)
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I think that Richard is making excellent points here. And this correspondence just shows the pitfalls of world....it will try to entangle us by hook or by crook. And one day you are willing to die for YHWH and the next you are a commisar in the new red army. We often look at politics and religion as something separate but more than ever it becomes clearer that Yada's term "poligion" is the truth of the matter. Politics is undertaken all over the world with religious fervor and fanaticism. I don't think we need to look any further than 2008 to Obama's election....or if you prefer the rightist flavor....the tea party "the constitution is divinely inspired"....barf. When it comes down to it.....there is nothing in this world worth us taking our eyes off of YHWH. And this is not me preaching.....this is something that is very very hard for me. I say this as somebody who probably has more difficulty than about 99 percent of the people on this forum disengaging from the world and its snares and I will be honest I am a work in progress. None of these movements make YHWH their priority...so in the end....none of them can bring about any good that will truly matter or last. "Our god is big government!!!!!" "Our god is big government that is a little smaller than yours!!!!!" Our God....is YHWH. We don't embrace him by becoming communists or republicans. We embrace him by observing the Torah. When those kids all over the country start reading The Torah starting from Bereshith to Yisra'el...then maybe we should start paying attention....and if they were....they probably wouldn't be copulating and defacating in public.
I do think however...there is a fine balancing act. I think we should know what is going on and be aware of the times but to watch fox or cnn 24 hours a day and sympathize with political groups is something we cannot do and we cannot do it for very long without forgetting our first LOVE.
YHWH's ordinances are true, and righteous altogether.
Offline tagim  
#3 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2011 8:06:33 AM(UTC)
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This, to me, is a topic post whose life may outlast "Questioning Paul." It is analogous to Arab Spring here in the United States. For, where the Arabs have nothing and run to the streets for something (for naught), the Americans have something and run to the streets for nothing. But let's be honest: our government is corrupt, our society is corrupt, our minds are corrupt and far to many millions are seeking the right way the wrong way. The fact remains, we are the best of the worst. And yes, we will pay for it, including our children not yet born, those young and older, family and friends. We who are protected by Yah and Torah may rejoice, but only after our death; for who will not suffer pain from our inability to rescue those we love. So, to say that it is not our problem (the camp out at OWT) is more accurate to acknowledge a truism: there is nothing we can do about it. The truth in this country is there is no longer a forum to remedy evils. A peaceful demonstration should be that proper place, but this one was started by an ad company funded by a billionaire socialist determined to destroy our country as we know it. Doesn't seem like a possible good remedy there.

Gatherings in the streets during these troubled times will be deemed uncontrolled mobs and ensuing riots. But where is the proper forum to protest. Write a letter to your Congressman?

I could write more but wish for answers.
Offline FredSnell  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:44:32 AM(UTC)
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When the youth are cheering, "communist" leaders, we know how far off track things in this country, and this occupation are. We do have concerns here that need addressing, and overseas as well, but without men thinking properly, by observing Torah and searching out the answers, we will just continue down the prim rose path until every last one of us is in some sort of poverty line.

I loved your answer. "We who are protected by Yah and Torah may rejoice, but only after our death; for who will not suffer pain from our inability to rescue those we love." I do rejoice in knowing they are not eternally punished like religions preach. Though they remain dumbfounded when I tell 'em this.

That day I got that post from you, showing Obama standing prideful above a destroyed america with his hands on his hips and his nose arrogantly thrust upwards and the qoute, "My work here is done"..it summed up just what we have allowed to happen when we don't vet our leaders propperly.
I'm not going to thrust myself into politics or voting any longer, but if I did, I would probably vote the black guy that isn't racist. He wants what's equvilant to a flat tax and I'm all for the poor paying their fair share, bc this country does have the fattest poor ppl in the world, like Armey said.
Offline Daniel  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:36:58 AM(UTC)
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encounterHim wrote:
I would probably vote the black guy that isn't racist. He wants what's equvilant to a flat tax



Alan Keyes?

;-)
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Offline FredSnell  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:59:31 AM(UTC)
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Daniel wrote:
Alan Keyes?

;-)


Dare I say it,,,Cain is able...!!!

As far as Keyes, he's probably the only one that has read the Constitution. I had him in my sights back in the day.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:49:03 PM(UTC)
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Offline shalom82  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:11:04 AM(UTC)
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I hope I am not making a mistake by posting this...after I have written all that I have about not getting involved and engrossing ourselves in the world....but I think there is a video that makes it crystal clear that we should have nothing to do with these people....and for that matter no sympathy or common feeling with them. They are very dangerous and judging by their rhetoric and desires....evil people. I know that is a strong condemnation....but each of you judge for yourselves if my language is strong. They are talking about killing, persecuting, tearing down, destroying, coercing and forcing. They don't view people as human beings anymore. A restaurant owner who works 18 hours a day...whose name it Tom. Who started his business from the ground and has a wife and kids and dreams of his own...who provides a livelihood to his employees and contributes to the livelihoods of countless others....is just in an instant reclassified into an enemy group....the bourgeois....worthy of having his property confiscated...ready for the re-education camp...and when that doesn't work...kill him. That to me is evil.

They talk about eating the rich and would have you believe it is some humorous joke. Well it might be to those ignorant of the so-sec humanist regimes...particularly of the 20th century....such as Russia, China, Vietnam and Cambodia that practiced "political retributive cannibalism" against perceived enemies. These cannibalism comments have been used all over the country. This is no isolated incident. Which leads me to believe that these are not just a bunch of ignorant students who are mad and don't really know why. They are well read and very indoctrinated into Marxian thinking and well aware of the history of the socialist regimes....and far from deterring them....they approve and want to reenact this upon humanity once again. It also reminds me the the muslims also like to partake in human flesh....be it Jews or Chinese. Just another coincidence I guess.

At the end the punk with the bull ring through his nose answers the interviewer that asked what would he do with those who don't want to change and he said "kill em!" and then he said he was joking. How disgusting and disingenuous. That is not something you joke about or take lightly and if you can joke about killing people...as if it were a triffling matter.....there is already something very wrong with you that you would count human life so cheaply. Besides that....he wasn't joking. How ironic....the humanists....are so anti-human. Which makes it all the more clear. we humans alone are swimming not against the tide....but against the niagra falls. YHWH is our only hope....Ruach HaQodesh is the only restrainer....and She shall be departing sooner rather than later. When you can call the criminals, thieves and murderers heroes and liberators (Che, Mao, Lenin...et al ) and the victims the criminals....you are warped....and though I know that some are not beyond redemption....most of them are. Then I am reminded of declartion found in islam...I forget if it comes from the Quran or the Hadiths...to paraphrase....killing is no big thing. To be exact:

Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."

Which...when you get down to it....what is the difference.....they advocate the same thing. You don't believe in the eschatolgical religion of the So-secs (communism) they will kill you...no big deal. You don't believe in Islam...they will kill you...no big deal. Yada has pointed out how Mein Kampf reads like a modern companion to the canonical texts of Islam....while I don't know about companion....the resemblance is striking....arbitrary classification, dehumanization, institutionalized envy and hatred, the perfect melding of religion and politics. The similarities abound...and it is no wonder these "poligions" are finally starting to see their common bonds and are working together to bring about shared objectives.

Why I bring this up is because socialist-secular humanism will be a component of the beast's world government. I think this is a taste of the mindset and the attitudes of those who will set themselves up against YHWH and His Yahudim and His nation Yisrael. These attitudes and emotions are easily transferable. Hatred and rage grow and multiply like a plague and they will prey on any convenient host. The socialist being anti human will not just stop with the "bourgeois" or with "capitalism". They will rage against YHWH and the Yahudim and Yisrael (as history already shows they have) it will be an act of solidarity between them and the muslims...a scapegoat that both can embrace and love to hate. Both are the favorites of the adversary and both rely on the darkest human emotions...like envy....both revel in gory sport and engage in acts nearly unmentionable...like cannibalism and mutilation. To me rather stark evidence that they have the same origin. Buckle up Yah's children.....

http://www.americanthink...lutionaries_revenge.html
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Offline FredSnell  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:09:16 PM(UTC)
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^ On my page it still shows tagims post, and not s82's. Like it's not updating.

Well I can't ever say I enjoy reading about my future demise, but you gave it a good shot anyhow s82. We know that Yah sent the Implement, in His name, Yahowsha, and it that, it shows what the work of the Implement will be. It will be to save those that recognize the Torahs value, and in that we also see that it's Yah doing the saving. The Implement(the name) within His name, Yahowsha. "I have come in My Father’s Name and you do not receive Me, if another comes in his own name (insert the false name, or Paul), him you would receive.” (John/Yahowchanan 5:43) We know that false name saves none, not a one, but Paul lead billions away too, so court is still in on that verse. To me both names can apply. "if another comes"..to me, one came quickly to the gentile to mislead him, and the other was brought on by man himself with his false name and image.
In (Deuteronomy/Devarim 17:6) it always required the testimony of two or three witnesses before one could be executed, but according to these Noahide Laws, it will only take one witness to get you. For you out there that haven't looked into these laws, I myself find it a tad disturbing that these implements of death and being stored close to the, Georgia Guide Stones, who's sole intent through its own wording, directs mankind to maintain a human balance of 500 million people. Now that's crazy, when we all know Yah directs us to multiply. I kid with my own sons telling them, "why waste bullets, this won't cost you a dime."...you can read the law here.
http://seemytruth.wordpr...991-death-by-guillotine/
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#10 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:40:19 PM(UTC)
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shalom82 wrote:
I hope I am not making a mistake by posting this...after I have written all that I have about not getting involved and engrossing ourselves in the world....but I think there is a video that makes it crystal clear that we should have nothing to do with these people....and for that matter no sympathy or common feeling with them. They are very dangerous and judging by their rhetoric and desires....evil people. I know that is a strong condemnation....but each of you judge for yourselves if my language is strong. They are talking about killing, persecuting, tearing down, destroying, coercing and forcing. They don't view people as human beings anymore. A restaurant owner who works 18 hours a day...whose name it Tom. Who started his business from the ground and has a wife and kids and dreams of his own...who provides a livelihood to his employees and contributes to the livelihoods of countless others....is just in an instant reclassified into an enemy group....the bourgeois....worthy of having his property confiscated...ready for the re-education camp...and when that doesn't work...kill him. That to me is evil.

They talk about eating the rich and would have you believe it is some humorous joke. Well it might be to those ignorant of the so-sec humanist regimes...particularly of the 20th century....such as Russia, China, Vietnam and Cambodia that practiced "political retributive cannibalism" against perceived enemies. These cannibalism comments have been used all over the country. This is no isolated incident. Which leads me to believe that these are not just a bunch of ignorant students who are mad and don't really know why. They are well read and very indoctrinated into Marxian thinking and well aware of the history of the socialist regimes....and far from deterring them....they approve and want to reenact this upon humanity once again. It also reminds me the the muslims also like to partake in human flesh....be it Jews or Chinese. Just another coincidence I guess.

At the end the punk with the bull ring through his nose answers the interviewer that asked what would he do with those who don't want to change and he said "kill em!" and then he said he was joking. How disgusting and disingenuous. That is not something you joke about or take lightly and if you can joke about killing people...as if it were a triffling matter.....there is already something very wrong with you that you would count human life so cheaply. Besides that....he wasn't joking. How ironic....the humanists....are so anti-human. Which makes it all the more clear. we humans alone are swimming not against the tide....but against the niagra falls. YHWH is our only hope....Ruach HaQodesh is the only restrainer....and She shall be departing sooner rather than later. When you can call the criminals, thieves and murderers heroes and liberators (Che, Mao, Lenin...et al ) and the victims the criminals....you are warped....and though I know that some are not beyond redemption....most of them are. Then I am reminded of declartion found in islam...I forget if it comes from the Quran or the Hadiths...to paraphrase....killing is no big thing. To be exact:

Tabari IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."

Which...when you get down to it....what is the difference.....they advocate the same thing. You don't believe in the eschatolgical religion of the So-secs (communism) they will kill you...no big deal. You don't believe in Islam...they will kill you...no big deal. Yada has pointed out how Mein Kampf reads like a modern companion to the canonical texts of Islam....while I don't know about companion....the resemblance is striking....arbitrary classification, dehumanization, institutionalized envy and hatred, the perfect melding of religion and politics. The similarities abound...and it is no wonder these "poligions" are finally starting to see their common bonds and are working together to bring about shared objectives.

Why I bring this up is because socialist-secular humanism will be a component of the beast's world government. I think this is a taste of the mindset and the attitudes of those who will set themselves up against YHWH and His Yahudim and His nation Yisrael. These attitudes and emotions are easily transferable. Hatred and rage grow and multiply like a plague and they will prey on any convenient host. The socialist being anti human will not just stop with the "bourgeois" or with "capitalism". They will rage against YHWH and the Yahudim and Yisrael (as history already shows they have) it will be an act of solidarity between them and the muslims...a scapegoat that both can embrace and love to hate. Both are the favorites of the adversary and both rely on the darkest human emotions...like envy....both revel in gory sport and engage in acts nearly unmentionable...like cannibalism and mutilation. To me rather stark evidence that they have the same origin. Buckle up Yah's children.....

http://www.americanthink...lutionaries_revenge.html


Rev 17: wrote:
13 These have one mind, and their power and authority they shall give up to the beast.
14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Master of Masters and King of kings, and the ones with Him are the called and chosen and faithful ones.
15 And he says to me, The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, and will make her desolated and naked. And they will eat her flesh, and will burn her down with fire.
17 For Elohim gave into their hearts to do His mind, and to act in one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the Words of Elohim shall be fulfilled.

“Because he clings to Me, is joined to Me, loves and delights in Me, desires Me, therefore I will deliver him, carry him safely away, cause him to escape from harm making him inaccessible and strong, and delivering him safely to heaven, because he has known, observed, cared for, recognized, instructed and advised others to use, designated, acknowledged, discerned, answered in, My name, authority, character, report, mark, and nature." Psalm 91:14
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#11 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:42:58 PM(UTC)
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“Because he clings to Me, is joined to Me, loves and delights in Me, desires Me, therefore I will deliver him, carry him safely away, cause him to escape from harm making him inaccessible and strong, and delivering him safely to heaven, because he has known, observed, cared for, recognized, instructed and advised others to use, designated, acknowledged, discerned, answered in, My name, authority, character, report, mark, and nature." Psalm 91:14
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:05:49 AM(UTC)
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Occupy Wall Street is a freakin' joke.
These people are actually looking to Government to save them from Wall Street.

I have to laugh...because if I don't laugh, I shall cry all day.

There are way too many uneducated/ignorant people on this planet. Hey, I'm not saying that I 'know it all', but I do know enough to see how misguided so many of these people are.

The fact that any politician would even 'pander' to this crap is maddening as well.
I wish we had some politicians with integrity...if that's even possible.

Dare I hope that Cain is able?!
:)
Yes, I dare hope for change. heh
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#13 Posted : Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:58:39 AM(UTC)
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Bridget wrote:
Occupy Wall Street is a freakin' joke.
These people are actually looking to Government to save them from Wall Street.


There's the oft repeated tactic used to bring about the NWO...Hagelian Dialectic:
Crisis, opposition, solution....all sides controlled by them, with the solution as more string to the web.
Deciept and false flags is their main psy opp
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#14 Posted : Thursday, November 3, 2011 4:41:42 AM(UTC)
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I believe the actual words deployed in their Protocols are "force and make believe".
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#15 Posted : Thursday, November 3, 2011 10:49:35 AM(UTC)
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I can't help but think that the Vatican is "Mystery Babylon". After the Pope proposed a "global bank", etc. this past week, with all the Vatican's money and political ties, I think they are the "global, religious, political, financial, and economic" Babylon.
Offline Walt  
#16 Posted : Thursday, November 3, 2011 12:02:25 PM(UTC)
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The occupy protestors have some valid points, but the wrong solutions
Occupy says corporations are evil and Govt is the answer - tea party says Govt is evil and corporations are a solution - they are both 1/2 right, they identify a problem, but offer an equally bad solution. They don't realize that both sides are serving the same master.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, November 3, 2011 4:08:15 PM(UTC)
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i can't take these people very seriously (that is their intellectual underpinnings....I take their aims deadly serious) when they go rabid over corporations when corporations are only able to exist as limited liability corporate entities by virtue of government fiat. just about everything they hate about the system has origins in government decrees...yet they trust the government to reform the mess by vesting more power in it.....good luck. It is like saying....hey...we are shooting ourselves in the foot here with the current status quo. If we shoot ourselves in the head...that would fix things. Hate to say it...but the revolution was....we are merely sorting out the particulars....these kids and elderly adolescents aren't here to change the system or tear it down...they might as well be saying "up with the man!!!"....they are red guards...beseeching and demanding for government as an institution to be true to itself....and true to form as a coercive institution that relies on threat and the threat of force. With that in mind....I wonder how long it will be till the next big bubble pops. That bubble being the higher education bubble...with around a trillion dollars of default waiting in the wings....yes indeed....forgive student loans. Then more debt...more inflation....and prepare to work a day just have enough to eat.....all courtesy of the fed and its money expansion and cheap credit....ensuring that we have colleges stuffed to the gills with people studying absolutely worthless and over represented majors....and of course it is like anything else....when you distort time preferences and expand demand beyond the true limits of credit.....prices go up....therefore we have people coming out of college with 50, 70 100 thousand dollars of debt....and uh oh...what's that....your prospects are either Mc Donalds or Target?...good luck with that loan....so get ready for the hangover....and the government/fed either pretends or hopes we won't realize that the hair of the dog that bit you is no cure. It is the same story over and over again...it doesn't matter if it is real estate or tech or education....different sectors....same story. nd I know this sounds overly political or academic....but to me....these facts are merely the paving stones on the road to tribulation. Tyranny.....deprivation....war....death....It wouldn't surprise me if the 4 horsemen will be wearing business suits with flag pins on the lapels.

You would sooner rid this world of government than you would rid government of corruption. A child could understand this as long as you used the right example. How many examples of government encouraged and sponsered malinvestment to get it into their skulls that it is the government that distorts the market. But that is the whole point....ha-rasha and ha resha'im have always distorted the meanings of words. They want us to believe that this perverted twisted and contorted gargoyle of fascism that we have in place now is free market enterprise. Look at how terrible "capitalism"....what we need is collectivism!!!!....(in other words more of the same). When the language is perverted...people lose their freedom. Up is down....down is up....Right is wrong....lies become truth, profligacy becomes responsible stewardship....democracy becomes a god, freedom becomes slavery and slavery becomes freedom, enemies are trusted as friends and war becomes peace. They are deliberately stiffnecked.....and willfully ignorant. They want their tyranny it it doesn't matter how many facts or how much truth gets in the way......What do we want? Totalitarianism!!!!!.....when do we want it? NOW!!!!!
YHWH's ordinances are true, and righteous altogether.
Offline Daniel  
#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:43:42 AM(UTC)
Daniel
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Walt wrote:
The occupy protestors have some valid points, but the wrong solutions
Occupy says corporations are evil and Govt is the answer - tea party says Govt is evil and corporations are a solution - they are both 1/2 right, they identify a problem, but offer an equally bad solution. They don't realize that both sides are serving the same master.

Very well said, Brother!
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