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Offline Daniel  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 3, 2011 9:34:23 AM(UTC)
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No, not even a little bit.

First: I must congratulate the sailors, operators and support staff on the successful and just resolution of the operation conducted in Pakistan last week. Hard training, good intel, excellent logistics and aggressive action carried the day. Good show!

Second: Huge numbers of people are celebrating this event as though "The War on Terror" has been one. This is an extremely foolish notion. The Sheik was not the Supreme Commander of Al-Queda. He was not even the inspiration for Islamic violence: Allah is. Let those words be burned into your mind. Never forget them.

Allah, and his prophet, Muhammad are the inspiration for Islamic violence against the rest of the world. The marching orders for Al-Queda do not need to come from a cave in rural Wackistan (or an upscale villa near the suburbs of the Pakistani capital, as it turned out). The words that incite violent attacks come straight from the Koran itself.

It is not "radical Islam" or "the twisting of the words of Allah/Muhammad" that justifies the actions of terrorists. It is just the simple reading of the text itself. It is Islamic fundamentals that are the problem. Those who doubt this can simply read the 9th Surah (chapter) to see for themselves. The most popular English-language translation, "The Nobel Koran" has a page-long footnote detailing how the imperatives to wage violent war against the enemies of Islam are not culturally bound nor limited to a specific time and place and most importantly that modern weaponry is to be used including 'tanks, aircraft and artillery'. The footnote is included by the translators and was printed there just in case anyone missed what Allah/Muhammad was trying to say in the Ayat(verses) that make up the "War" Surah(chapter).

I can already hear it now: "You are taking those verses out of context!" "That is not what the Prophet (or Allah, if you prefer) meant by those verses..."

Oh, really? Anyone who says that the "War" verses of the Koran are not reflective of the true nature of Islam has not studied the Sira (sīrat rasūl allāh) or the ahaddith. These are the biographical/historical documents that give context to the Koran and further legitimate the Muslim conquest of the non-Muslim world.

Let me make this perfectly clear: If you read and study the Koran, in its historical context, along with the early, authentic, biographies of Muhammad, and you do what it says, you must strap on a bomb-belt and head down to the shopping mall.

Just as most Christians and Jews don't really take their faith seriously, the overwhelming majority of Muslims do not either. This is why most Muslims are not violent and are just like everyone else; Trying to make a better life for their children.

The problem is that there are a few people who actually read what Allah had to say in The Koran (al-Qur'an), pattern their life after how Muhammad conducted himself, and take it seriously. The Sheik (who is now with Muhammad/Allah, thanks to the actions of our sailors) was one of those people who actually took the text of Islamic primary sources to heart and acted upon them. The killing of this guy was just, it will yield in the spontaneous creation of many more just like him.

Make no mistake, we can expect an increase in violent attacks by militant Muslims to start almost immediately. They will not be in the form of hijacked airliners ramming into building, nor will they be suitcase-nukes at sports stadiums. They will be Mumbai-style attacks, low-tech, low-dollar, lone-gunman type events. 'Some guy' will be in the Food Court at The Galleria in [fill in your city here], scream out "Allah-hu Akbar" twice, then pull out a firearm from under his coat and start killing soccer moms in the name of The Religion of Peace.

The FBI, CIA, TSA or Jack Bauer himself cannot prevent save you at this point, but you can. You can save yourself and others if you are properly trained, equipped and ready for decisive action. [Shameless plug: You can begin the training process at my website by clicking http://OurSafeHome.net ] Armed citizens with only rudimentary training and minimal equipment have foiled terrorist attacks several times. If you do not choose to be one of these couragous individuals, you have chosen (in advance) to be a victim.

To paraphrase Winston Churchill, "This is not the end. This is not even the beginning of the end, but it may be the end of the beginning."

Nehemiah wrote:
"We carried our weapons with us at all times, even when we went for water" Nehemiah 4:23b

We would do well to follow Nehemiah's example! http://OurSafeHome.net
Offline Matthew  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 3, 2011 1:12:36 PM(UTC)
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But Paul said "the weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world."
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, May 4, 2011 9:55:07 AM(UTC)
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Sorry, Daniel, but I just don't find justification for that advice in the Scripture. What I do find is Yahowsha telling us to turn the other cheek and to allow ourselves to be bullied out of our very clothing. How do you explain away those commands from Yahowah's mouthpiece?

I know that, besides the passage you reference in Nehemiah, other men of Yah went around armed, such as EliYah. Apparently, he had a sword with which he hacked to death some of the Lord's (Ba'al's) prophets for drawing the hearts of the people away from Yahowah. And Kepha (Peter) carried a sword but was rebuked for using it to protect the Master. So there can be made a case for going around armed, I'll grant that.

But I get from your message a sense that we ought to tie our 6-gun holsters to our thighs, throw on our cowboy hats and dusters, and saunter bow-legged through the malls looking for Black Ahkbar and his henchmen. The possibility of collateral damage from a shootout between the two parties would be, I am certain, extensive. And short of subjecting every potential or suspected Middle Easterner or sympathizer to a full body search, how would you tell who to target? So I think your advice is dangerous and unfitting.

Just my opinion. I've been proven wrong many, many times, so I won't be shattered if it happens again. But I will need something concrete and clear as freshly cleaned glass to make me comfortable with the idea of taking the life of another. Folks like you make it sound so casual and unimportant. I cannot bring myself to consider it like that.

Your friend and your brother,

Richard
Offline FredSnell  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, May 4, 2011 1:06:28 PM(UTC)
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Richard, I read Daniel's letter as, quality over quantity.

And really, brother, after I posted that 1st short re-ply above, it came to me brother, and without scripture telling me so. If you were down on the cement about to have you brains blown to kingdom come, and some fool was hovering over you shouting some crazy religious bs, do you believe that after he made pudding of you, he would just stop there in his tracks?..Somehow I don't think he would. Now I'm not saying our Father in anyway advocates violence in any form, but jeebers bro, we must make snap decisions in life before we can consult the Creator, even if that decision is wrong, and you thought you were right.
I'll bet cha brother, say a bottle of piss against a dollar, you'd thank me afterwards...lol.
Offline Richard  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 4, 2011 1:20:21 PM(UTC)
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And you would win that bet. My struggle is with coming to terms with it inside myself. Split-second, in-my-face decision? Waste the assailant on the spot and deal with matters of conscience afterwards. It's the afterwards that I am uncertain about.
Offline FredSnell  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 4, 2011 1:42:26 PM(UTC)
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exactly...lol. But you know man, I owe Yada and Ken big time for helping me realize a 3rd door in this life, or I'd feel like you wrote, "uncertain."..I thank 'em for helping me understand the festivals, and know that I do need atoning for. I know I'll never get it right in this life, but too, if He deems me worthy, I've promised Him, "Ill do my best in that thousand yrs to learn how to manage what I'm given, better."

And now I'm thinking of an Elton John song..lol, here's what I'm feeling...

I take only what is mine YHWH,
my pony, my squaw, and my child
I can't stay to see you die along
with my tribe's pride
I go to search for the Yellow Moon
and the fathers of our sons
Where the red sun
sinks in the hills of gold
and the healing waters run

Trampling down the prairie rose
leaving hoof tracks in the sand
Those who wish to follow me
I welcome with my hands
I heard from passing renegades
Geronimo was dead
He'd been laying down his weapons
when they filled him full of lead

Now there seems no reason
why I should carry on
In this land that once was my land
I can't find a home
It's lonely and it's quiet
and the horse soldiers are coming
And I think it's time I strung my bow
and ceased my senseless running
For soon I'll find the Yellow Moon
along with my loved ones
Where the buffalos graze
in clover fields
without the sound of guns

And the red sun sinks at last
into the hills of gold
And peace to this young warrior comes
with a bullet hole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8CpjxaHqCk
Offline VinceB.  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 4, 2011 1:52:26 PM(UTC)
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I lean conservative in being prepared (as in: better to have your gun and never need it than the alternative of needing it and not having one)...if you come across the bad guy, have a misfire, it's obvious Yah wants us home with Him now - otherwise, the bad guy's going to get it if my glock has anything to say about it...my .02 worth
HWHY
Offline FredSnell  
#8 Posted : Thursday, May 5, 2011 2:18:57 AM(UTC)
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VinceB. wrote:
..my .02 worth



I'm right there with ya, Vince..except, I think we all agree here, with the dollars slide, you better make that, my .03 worth.
Offline Daniel  
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 5, 2011 3:29:38 AM(UTC)
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MasAyoob wrote:
Not long ago, a woman in a market in Israel saw a man attempting to activate an explosive device strapped to his body. She drew a concealed pistol and shot him dead before he could trigger the suicide bomb, and in so doing she saved countless innocent people from being killed or mutilated. American newspapers referred to her as a “security” person, but the word I get is that she was simply an ordinary lady…with a gun, and the will to use it, and the foresight to have learned to use it properly and effectively.


Last Sun-god-day, at the NRA meeting in Pittsburg, I met the vendor who sold this woman her weapon. It was a Colt Police Positive revolver in .38 Special. This is a weapon whose design goes back to 1899.

Word has is that she gave him one right between the running lights, dropping Johnny-Jihad to the grocery store floor like the sack of pig dung that he was. (Here it comes...) (Wait for it...)

CLEAN UP ON AISLE NINE!

(Sorry, I couldn't let that one go by!)

The upshot (pun intended) is that a woman, with minimal training and a century old weapon, was able to go home to her husband and children that night. Moreover, a dozen or so other people were able to go home to their families. Johnny-Jihad got to go and be with Muhammad/Alla, so everybody got what they wanted!

Richard, you have the right to choose (in advance) to be a victim. I also know that you know how to operate a firearm. If my kids were at a shopping mall in your part of the country, where Johnny-J decides to attack next, I would hope that you would do the right thing. Just so we are clear, the right thing is to give the bomb-belt wearing follower of Allah one right between the horns. If you do not, you will have willfully allowed MY kids to die. That would erect a stumbling block to our friendship.

A little old lady with a surplus .38 was able to thwart this monkey from killing many people a the supermarket, you, Marine, could do much better. Wear the cowboy hat and duster, if you like, but please, SAVE MY CHILDREN!

Love, you, Brother.
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Offline VinceB.  
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 5, 2011 3:20:05 PM(UTC)
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encounterHim wrote:
I'm right there with ya, Vince..except, I think we all agree here, with the dollars slide, you better make that, my .03 worth.


dollar slide verse the dollar being in free-fall...how fitting we not only are awash in the cesspools of political and religious schemes, but economically we're pulled into using their economic schemes as well...alas...

I've always wondered, since I became aware of the federal reserve scheme, how is it that we use their fiat (make-believe) monies, purchasing homes and properties and things, and still think, at the end of the day, our stuff is actually our stuff...wouldn't it stand to reason that if the dollars we use belongs to the federal reserve system that anything we buy with it would belong to them by default?


HWHY
Offline FredSnell  
#11 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2011 2:37:38 AM(UTC)
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I think Denny and his bunch of fellow Yahudims are getting ready today for what may come tomorrow...His group has been putting things in order for a while now....I believe their assessment of, End Times may be off, but I appreciate their preparedness.

http://www.youtube.com/w...ToMk&feature=related

Look at some of his vids on how some in, YAH are getting ready.
Offline shalom82  
#12 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2011 9:07:27 AM(UTC)
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It was in the news that there was a large stash of pornography at the Bin Laden compound in Pakistan. It has already started to happen but the media will do the whole "aha!!!....you see he wasn't a good muslim" garbage that they always manage to bring out comfortably ignorant of the facts. Interestingly enough the porn stash and the arsenal seem to compliment each other pretty well in the salafi-jihadi fundamentalist mohammadan world view. This is by no means the first cache of porn found in the haunts of the faithful mohammadans.
What I am getting at is not so much the evils of pornography nor am I so naive or hypocritical not to realize or acknowledge that the U.S. is bar none the largest producer and consumer of pornographic material....simply what I am getting at is the all to expected reality that the media is so devoid of honesty either by ignorance or by agenda that they cannot or will not admit that pornography is a forgone conclusion in a worldview that has marginalized women to the role of "tilth".
It is a great comfort in this world to actually know what is going on. When any pundit or commentator enters the arena and offers their opinion of the Mohammadan death cult you know INSTANTLY whether they are lying. It is just interesting to me because I think most of these people lie though ignorance. They can't be bothered to know the truth and just take the platitudes that the mohammadan islamists feed the "kaffir" for granted....and these fools who are paid millions to spout off know absolutely nothing. You see it over and over again idiots from the right and the left saying that the Bin Ladens of the world are "bad Muslims" or that they have "corrupted/perverted their religion" and I just think back to Hosea....".....destroyed for lack of knowledge" What I love even more is when they claim they have read the Quran....I even doubt that is true but I then would like to ask them ok then...have you read it in chronological order, have you framed it with the help of the hadiths and the histories, have you digested the fact that the hadiths canonical in islam, do you even have any understanding whatsoever of al-nasikh w'al-mansoukh?
You know what I would absolutely love.....if somebody could or would put out and abrogated quran....pared of all reduncancy and abrogated verses. It would be a very short, very violent, very hateful book. Perhaps even somebody like O'Reilly could find the time to actually read that one.

I would have loved to hear Mr. I.Q al-Rassouli and Yada together on the radio. Unfortunately I don't think that the KGAB has an archive any more. I am wondering if such a confluence happens again....can we get a heads up?
YHWH's ordinances are true, and righteous altogether.
Offline FredSnell  
#13 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 6:34:19 AM(UTC)
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Hi shalom82. America according to most sources is the biggest producer of porn from what I read, but per capita, S.Korea and Japan blew the US out of the water as far as consumers...I guess we either free 'em to enjoy their porn, or we defeat 'em to bring 'em porn?
http://internet-filter-r...nography-statistics.html

I was wondering, can the Quran be put into real chronological order? If Muslim scholar Ali Dashti is accurate: "It must always be borne in mind that most of the Qur'anic laws and ordinances were formulated in response to random incidents and petitions from aggrieved persons. There are some inconsistencies in them and in the reasons that there are abrogating and abrogated ordinances.... The Qur'anic laws are brief and were insufficient for the needs of the huge Muslim community…" Muhammad was prepared to change his mind, vows, and rules according to the circumstances."

I find that one statement profound. Is he suggesting the Quran is a living breathing declaration? I do notice that when one of Mohammeds commands seem to be too hard to influence the crowd with, he has a right to change it to meet his needs...lol

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#14 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:36:57 AM(UTC)
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After reading the article, at the bottom they give the numbers of deaths from, jihad...'m just thinking,,,couldn't it be looked at as billions plus, considering that's howmany that have been, and are now wrapped up in this dogma.

http://www.politicalisla...rs/pages/tears-of-jihad/
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#15 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:52:36 PM(UTC)
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shalom82 wrote:
What I love even more is when they claim they have read the Quran....I even doubt that is true but I then would like to ask them ok then...have you read it in chronological order, have you framed it with the help of the hadiths and the histories, have you digested the fact that the hadiths canonical in islam, do you even have any understanding whatsoever of al-nasikh w'al-mansoukh?


I think we owe Yada a lot for doing what he did in Prophet of Doom. His work really settles the matter.

Let's say Mo lived in today's world, can you guys just imagine what would be included in his stash of porn?!

encounterHim, yeah, you are right, Mo pretty much made it up as he went along, hence why he came up with these two beautiful passages:

POD - Chapter 5 - The Food wrote:
There are two Qur'anic verses in particular that condemn Muslims to live in religious, economic, intellectual, and civil poverty. One says: Qur'an 4:89 "If they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them." The other commands: Qur'an 5:101 "Believers! Do not ask questions about things which if made plain and declared to you, may vex you, causing you trouble." Qur'an 5:102 "Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account they lost their faith and became disbelievers." It's true; the Qur'an is so incomprehensible, so obviously fraudulent, so mean-spirited, anyone who even questions it loses their faith. So we need to give Muslims the freedom to ask questions and to make choices.



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#16 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 5:46:45 PM(UTC)
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Shalom encounterhim,
I stand corrected. That will teach me to be less flippant and presumptuous in the future :)

As to the question about a chronological quran....I can understand the whole argument about the arbitrary and capricious nature of the entire quran and how the story changed according to the needs and desires of muhammad but at the same time I think the chronological quran is useful and necessary when it comes to understanding al nasikh w'al-mansoukh and also understanding the contrasts between Mecca and Medina periods....one more inane than dangerous and the other equally inane but exponentially more dangerous and destructive. But to a broader point going back to the inane for just a second....I think the chronology is helpful in that when we unmuddle the quran and put it in a general chronological order from creation to Adam to Noach to Abraham to Moses and on and on and on....people then get a real sense of the idiocy of the book. It loses it's vibe as a collection of anecdotes pertinent in their own right (akin to the analects of Confucius) and it becomes clearer to the reader that it is the poor work of plagiarism and personal vendetta/agenda that it is.

Shalom Matthew,
Yes I don't think we have to have too sharp of an imagination to know what would be in such a collection.
YHWH's ordinances are true, and righteous altogether.
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#17 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2011 4:23:02 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Yada, quoting Qur' Go to Quoted Post
"Believers! Do not ask questions about things which if made plain and declared to you, may vex you, causing you trouble. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account they lost their faith and became disbelievers."


Reading that passage should produce the effect of having a bucketful of ice cold water splashed into one's face. The fact that those Muslims who can actually read have either read it and taken it as truth or have not bothered to read it at all causes a chill to race throughout my whole body.

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#18 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 2:59:42 AM(UTC)
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Matthew wrote:
I think we owe Yada a lot for doing what he did in Prophet of Doom. His work really settles the matter.



Hey Matt. I agree with you on Yadas work. I use it as a springboard with ppl. Letting them know about POD and where they can just listen to the mp3 if they wish to instead of reading it, and also letting them in on the other free online books in the lower right column which of course will lead to YY.

Shalom82, I sure woundn't accuse you of being flippant. I really do believe we outnumber most countries in our smuttiness. Matter of fact, we've been having rallies in some cities promoting our own smut dressing for women that feel like they should be able to wear whatever they feel in public wwithout guys making rude gestures and remarks.
Well I hope they understand, just bc Yah has introduced Himself to us, doesn't mean all men have evolved. If women remember, men use to just club them and haul 'em back to their cave for their enjoyment without their consent.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:06:45 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Muhammad/Allah said in Qur' Go to Quoted Post
"Believers! Do not ask questions about things which if made plain and declared to you, may vex you, causing you trouble. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account they lost their faith and became disbelievers."


The pastor of my former church said much the same thing, and in the next breath said that following the Torah was 'cultic'.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:20:09 PM(UTC)
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Revisted "Iron Mountain Report"
http://www.mega.nu/ampp/ironmtn.html

Done by think tank in early 60's, and all though dismissed as being legit, so much has come to pass.
As I read this a ton of scripture and prophecy came to mind.
Also "never underestimate the ability of the human mind to rationalize evil"

....especially those with the "power gene" doing thier father's bidding.
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#21 Posted : Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:10:03 PM(UTC)
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cgb2 wrote:
Revisted "Iron Mountain Report"
http://www.mega.nu/ampp/ironmtn.html

....especially those with the "power gene" doing thier father's bidding.


I would bet IMF head, Dominique Strauss-Kahn wishes he didn't have the, "power gene" about right now.
According to ABC NEWS, the lady that was attacked was a, "good muslim."....hmm, wondering if they could even
grasped the idea of..NO, you idiots, she's a bad muslim.

I love my country for what she is suppose to represent. I hate her for what she has become.
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