It starts at sunset on Monday and goes through next Tuesday at sundown if you are outside of Yisrael: includes Pesach Unleavened and First Fruits; been reading the Pesach chapter of YY and am feeling so blessed - what an awesome honor it is to be included in Yah's family; is really a real joy to read YY's chapter/s - plan to do the same with the Matsah/Unleavened Bread Feast and the Bikuwrym/First Fruits Feast today and tomorrow, as well as through the three feasts days all of which, as you already know, happens all durng this same week of the Pesach/Passover celebration...

I'm celebrating:
14th day Passover sundown 9/17 late night vigil
Passover lamb kabobs 9/18 between the evens (3pm-sundown when Messiah and passover lambs killed)
15th day (Exodus from Egypt, Messiah in the tomb)
Sundown 9/18 high sabbath of unleavened bread
Took off work 9/19 high sabbath (daytime)
16th day Firstfruits (sundown 4/19-4/20)
20th day high sabbath starts sundown 4/23 end sundown 4/24

Also another verse that really confirmed 1+6=7 was:
Exo 12:18 ‘In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, in the evening, you shall eat unleavened bread until the twenty-first day of the month in the evening.

So days 14-20 (until 21st day starting at sundown, but 21st not included) is 7 days total.
1+6=7

Edited by user Friday, April 22, 2011 7:43:55 AM(UTC)  | Reason: date error (20th day)

Amplified _ From PDF on YY Forum:
Leviticus
Chapter 23
1-2Yahuweh (YHWH) spoke these words (dabar - communicated) to (‘el) Moseh (moseh - one who draws out), saying (‘amar - answering and promising, intending), ‘Speak the Word to (dabar - communicated with) the Children (ben) of Yisra’el (yisra’el - from ‘ys sarah and ‘el, those who strive and struggle with, those who persist and endure with, those who persevere with and are empowered by God), and say (‘amar - call out, declare, and promise that) these Godly (‘el-leh) appointed meeting times (mow’ed - fixed assembly betrothal appointments which focus on the specific purpose designated by the Authority) of Yahuweh, these related (‘asher) set-apart (qodesh) assemblies of the called out (miqra’ey - the calling together; from qara’, to call out, to read, and recite), shall be proclaimed (qara’ - called out, read aloud, and recited) in relationship to (‘asher) their appointed meeting times (mow’ed - their fixed betrothal appointments where the assembly focuses on the specific purpose which was designated by the Authority).’ 3Six (ses) days (yowmym) the service of the spiritual messenger (mala’kah) shall be performed (‘asah - accomplished), so then (wa) in (ba) the (ha) seventh (shaby’y) day (yowm) will be a Sabbath (shabat - time of rest and reflection), a set-apart (qodesh) called-out assembly (miqra’) for rest and reflection (shabatown). All (kol) service of the heavenly messenger (mala’kah) shall not (lo’) be done (‘asah - performed). It is Yahuweh’s Sabbath (shabat - time for rest and reflection) in (ba) all (kol) your (‘atem) dwelling places and throughout time (mosab - wherever and whenever you assemble). 4These Godly (‘el-leh) appointed symbolic meeting places and times (mow’ed - the designated periods which are related to others for a specific purpose authorized by the authority; the set-apart feast and festival celebrations of communion, the betrothal appointments) of Yahuweh, these related (‘asher) set-apart (qodesh) assemblies of the called out (miqra’ey - rehearsals for calling us together; from qara’, to call out, to read, and recite), shall be proclaimed (qara’ - called out, read aloud, and recited) in relationship to (‘asher) their appointed symbolic meeting times (mow’ed - their fixed betrothal appointments where the assembly focuses on the specific purpose which was designated by the Authority). 5In (ba) the (ha) first (ri’shown)
month (chodesh - time of renewal) [Abib - the month young barley ears form and green], on the fourteenth (‘arba’ ‘asar - four and tenth) of (la) the (ha) month (hodes or chodesh - time of renewal) at (bayin - between and within the interval of) twilight (‘ereb - sunset), is Yahuweh’s Passover (pesach or pesah - act of sparing and providing immunity). 6The fifteenth (chamesh ‘asar - the fifth plus tenth) day (yowm) of this same (zeh) month (hodesh - time of restoration and renewal) is the festival feast (hag - celebration) of Unleavened Bread (Matsah - bread without leavening-yeast which is symbolic of sin and corruption) unto Yahuweh. Seven days shall you eat bread without leavening-yeast (matsah). 7The first, foremost, and primary (ri’shown) day (yowm) exists as (hayah) a set-apart and cleansing (qodesh) Called-Out Assembly (miqra’ - an occasion for a unified collection of people to gather together for a specific purpose, an invitation and summons to read, recite, and communicate the news and message). You shall not (lo’) do (‘asah - fashion, accomplish, or produce) any of (kol) the work (‘abodah - deeds done in service to another) of the business of the heavenly messenger (mala’kah - the service of the mal’ak, the theophanic representative, the visible manifestation of God, [i.e., Yahshua]). 8Come near and be present with (qarab - approach and appear before) the adoptive mother who enlightens and elevates (‘iseh/‘isah) unto (la - toward, into, on behalf of, according to, and in relation to) Yahuweh for seven (seba’ - from saba’, to swear an oath and make a promise) days (yowm). The seventh (shabiy’iy) day is a set-apart (qodesh - cleansing and separated, purifying and dedicated) Miqra’ (miqra’ - Called-Out Assembly for reading and communion; from qara’, to call out, to recite, to read, and to summon by name). You shall not (lo’) do (‘asah - institute or accomplish, prepare or produce, perform or bring about) any (kol) of the work (‘abodah - labor) of the service of Heaven’s Messenger (mala’kah - the theophany, the visible manifestation and representative of God). 9-10Yahuweh spoke to (dabar - conversed with) Moseh (the one who draws out), saying (‘amar - speaking and promising, answering and vowing), ‘Speak (dabar - communicate these words) to the children (ben - sons) of Yisra’el (those who live and abide with God, those who are empowered and preserved by God) and say to (‘amar - declare and promise) to (‘el) them (hemah): “Indeed when (kiy) you arrive and enter (bow’ - come into) the land (‘erets - realm) of relationship which (‘asher) I (‘any) am giving (natan - assigning and bestowing) to you, and (wa) reap its harvest (qatsar ‘eth qatsyr), bring (bow’ ‘eth - arrive, come in, and draw near with) a sheaf (‘omer - a small, bound measure of grain (one-tenth ephah or about two quarts) bundled and ready for processing and transport) of the FirstFruits (re’shiyth - the beginning, the first and the best; the choicest portion which has been set-apart unto the foremost family) of your harvest (qatiyr) to (‘el) the priest who officiates (kohen - the one who serves as a minister). 11And (wa) lift up and wave (nuwp - elevate and present, moving to and fro) the sheaf (‘omer/’amar -
the small gathering of grain which is bundled and ready for processing and transport) in (toward, on behalf of, and concerning) the presence (paneh - before) Yahuweh, in order for (la) you all (‘athem - yourselves) to exercise freewill and choose to be accepted favorably (rasown - to seek and capitalize upon a generous and gracious accommodation, to be found acceptable and pleasing by way of preferential and auspicious treatment, to be desired and found delightful, to satisfy and bring pleasure, to freely acknowledge that one’s debt has been paid in full). On the day after (min mahorath) the Sabbath (sabath - time set apart for rest and reflection, to abstain from ordinary labor) the priest (kohen - the one who serves as a minister) shall wave (nuwp - elevate, present, and move) it (huw’ - them and him [speaking of the sheaf and its small gathering of grain, representing harvested souls, and the Messiyah who facilitated their acceptance]). 12And then (wa) on (ba) the day (yowm) you all (‘athem) should wave (nuwp - elevate, present, and move) the sheaf (‘omer/’amar - the small gathering of grain which is bundled and ready for processing and transport). The work is accomplished (‘asah - the job is done, the benefit is provided) by (‘eth) the Lamb (kebes), the perfect (tamiym - the blameless and innocent without any imperfection; from tamam, the one who accomplishes, completes, and fulfills) Son (ben). He (huw’) changes and alters (sana’ - will be changed and altered, will renew and transform, and will be renewed and transformed) for the purpose of (la) rising up (‘olah / ‘alah - being taken up and ascending ) to (la) Yahuweh. 13His (huw’) gift (minchah -present and offering) of a double tithe of (sanaym ‘asarown - two tenths of) purified grain (‘soleth - bread flour with the hulls removed revealing the inner pristine kernel, distinguished from whole grain inclusive of its impurities) is to be mixed and anointed with (balal - combined and intertwined with and immersed in) oil (semen) by way of (ba - with and by means of) the adoptive mother who enlightens and elevates (‘iseh/‘isah) unto (la - toward, into, on behalf of, according to, and in relation to) Yahuweh, creating the pleasing Spirit (ruyach - forming a pleasant aroma; from ruwach, the Spirit) of reconciliation (nyhohoch - of restoration, of relationship, of appeasement, of conciliation, of tranquility and harmonious fellowship, from nuwach, to rest in peace). And Her (huw’) drink offering (nesek) shall be a fourth (raby’iy - that which makes us square and complete) fluid measure (hyn - a quantity of liquid equivalent to one-sixth Hebrew bath, which was approximately six gallons [i.e., one quarter of 1/6th of 6 gallons, or one quart) of wine (yayin - that which demonstrates liveliness and exhilaration). 14Do not (lo’) eat (‘akal - consume) the bread (lehem), roasted grain (qaly), or ripe orchard fruit (karmel - garden produce) until (‘ad) the essential, substantive, and foundational (‘esem - skeletal and invigorating, life sustaining) day (yowm), until (‘ad) this specific (zeh) arrival and harvest (bow’) offering and gift which draws you close to (qaraban atem - voluntary contribution to bring you near) your (atem) God (‘elohym). It shall be a
clearly communicated prescription of what you should do (huqah - an appointment for an allotment, a custom, a tradition, and a statute) forever (‘owlam - eternally) throughout your generations (dor - for all time, ages, and conditions) in all your assemblies and dwellings (moshab - settlements, abodes, locations, populations, situations, and sojourns).

cbg2, I know you're already aware of the following quote, but it bears repeating here in regards to the Garden of Gethsemane:



^ no I don't have a copy yet, he's still working on the 3rd volume. Send me a pm if want copies of the first 2 volumes.

Thx, Flintface. That's exactly what we're doing, too. This is our first time and although I was going to follow the schedule that Yada has laid out, I was simply curious where all these conflicting dates come from. I guess today's Jewish folks don't follow the correct schedule any better than the Christians if Passover was listed as being on the 19th which was actually the calendar day that Unleavened Bread ends and First Fruits begins this year.

I also understand that we're not required to be exact in practice. I'm sure the most important thing is that we are remembering and studying the scripture regarding the greatest gift to mankind ever.

Paul

Sorry I've been away from the forum for a few days.

First, on the question of dates -- don't forget that what's frequently on our calendars as "Passover" is actually the First Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the 15th of Abib, not the 14th. We keep the "memorial of the sacrifice of the Passover", Judaism does not. The 14th is not a sabbath (or else the death penalty could not be carried out). The 15th is a sabbath, and is the day they keep.

Part of the confusion is that between Genesis and John, the Israelites went into captivity in Babylon. So the command to kill the lamb on the 14th "at even" can be interpreted as the start of the day, or the end of the day. See THIS LESSON for more background.

On the time in the grave, remember that Messiah told us He would rise ON (not after) the third day. See Matthew 16:21, 17:23, 20:19; Mark 9:31, 10:34, Luke 9:22, 13:32, 18:33, 24:7. The tomb was guarded UNTIL (not through) the third day in Matthew 27:26. On the road to Emmaus, his followers said this is NOW the third (not the fourth) day since these things happened (Luke 24:21, 24:46). Later testimony agrees, see Acts 10:40, 1 Cor 15:4.

Part of the confusion rests with Western thought. See the story in 1 Kings 12:1-12, and 2 Chronicles 10: 1-12. The king tells the people to depart "for three days", and they return "on the third day". Also, Esther 4:13 - 5:1 -- eat nor drink three days, night or day... then, on the third day!

Bottom line: He was sacrificed on day one (dying shortly before sunset), was in the grave on day two, and arose on day three (sometime before sunrise). Actual time in the grave was somewhere between about 24 and 36 hours; and this is only a contradiction in our western thought. Shalom!

While I understand your reasoning, it is dangerous to disagree with Yahshua:

Luke 22:15

I’ve written and got response to ISR scripture requesting they improve a verse in Matthew that really threw me about Passover….Here’s copy/paste:
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Mat 26:17 And on the first day of Unleavened Bread the taught ones came to יהושע, saying to Him, “Where do You wish us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?”

Seemed to conflict with :

Lev 23:5 ‘In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, between the evenings, is the Passover to יהוה.
Lev 23:6 ‘And on the fifteenth day of this month is the Festival of Unleavened Bread to יהוה – seven days you eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 ‘On the first day you have a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.
Lev 23:8 ‘And you shall bring an offering made by fire to יהוה for seven days. On the seventh day is a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.’ ”

On account that in Lev 23:7 the “first day” is a high Sabbath…and Messiah was the Passover lamb, mention of “preparation day”, body taken down and in the grave before the Sabbath, etc.
However I later considered (from details in Exodus) that Passover is part of Unleavened Bread and includes eating unleavened bread (for 7 days), and thereby Passover is 14th day of the month, Unleavened bread 15th day of the month (high sabbath) and then last 6 days (with the last day being a high Sabbath). Seems to make sense with YHWH’s typical 6+1=7 pattern.

Further confirmed by:
Exo 12:18 ‘In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, in the evening, you shall eat unleavened bread until the twenty-first day of the month in the evening.

So days 14-20 (until 21st day starting at sundown, but 21st not included) is 7 days total.

But I did find TWTY amplified translation much less confusing in that passage (“before” instead of “on”): http://www.thewaytoyahuw...rsion1/matthew#chapter26
Moreover, before the first and chief, principle and most important day of unfermented bread*, the disciples and followers, pupils and learners, apprentices and adherents came to and approached, turned and drew near to Yahushua*, saying and teaching, maintaining and affirming, directing and exhorting, advising and pointing out, “Where and in what place do you want and wish, prefer and aim, intend, will and desire for us to prepare and arrange, provide and make the necessary preparations for you to eat, devour and consume the Passover*?”

How did ya'll celebrate firstfruits? Was thinking not much up here in high mountains of Colorado to wave as "a harvest", 'cept maybe some pine twigs and last years wild rose with rosehips, and maybe a silver coin (sure wouldn't use federal reserve notes since they are "dishonest weights and measures" to the extreme).

Instead, just observed it by reading Leviticus 23 and John 20...especially this detail:
Joh 20:17 יהושע said to her, “Do not hold on to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My Elohim and your Elohim.’ ”

Deu 16:1 “Guard the month of Aḇiḇ, and perform the Passover to יהוה your Elohim, for in the month of Aḇiḇ יהוה your Elohim brought you out of Mitsrayim by night.
Deu 16:2 “And you shall slaughter the Passover to יהוה your Elohim, from the flock and the herd, in the place where יהוה chooses to put His Name.
Deu 16:3 “Eat no leavened bread with it. For seven days you eat unleavened bread with it, bread of affliction, because you came out of the land of Mitsrayim in haste – so that you remember the day in which you came out of the land of Mitsrayim, all the days of your life.
Deu 16:4 “And no leaven should be seen with you in all your border for seven days, neither should any of the meat which you slaughter in the evening on the first day stay all night until morning.
Deu 16:5 “You are not allowed to slaughter the Passover within any of your gates which יהוה your Elohim gives you,
Deu 16:6 but at the place where יהוה your Elohim chooses to make His Name dwell, there you slaughter the Passover in the evening, at the going down of the sun, at the appointed time you came out of Mitsrayim.
Deu 16:7 “And you shall roast and eat it in the place which יהוה your Elohim chooses, and in the morning you shall turn and go to your tents.
Deu 16:8 “Six days you eat unleavened bread, and on the seventh day there is a closing festival to יהוה your Elohim – you do no work.

And again but in ISR 1998:
Lev 23:1 And יהוה spoke to Mosheh, saying,
Lev 23:2 “Speak to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and say to them, ‘The appointed times of יהוה, which you are to proclaim as set-apart gatherings, My appointed times, are these:
Lev 23:3 ‘Six days work is done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a set-apart gathering. You do no work, it is a Sabbath to יהוה in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:4 ‘These are the appointed times of יהוה, set-apart gatherings which you are to proclaim at their appointed times.
Lev 23:5 ‘In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, between the evenings, is the Passover to יהוה.
Lev 23:6 ‘And on the fifteenth day of this month is the Festival of Unleavened Bread to יהוה – seven days you eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 ‘On the first day you have a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.
Lev 23:8 ‘And you shall bring an offering made by fire to יהוה for seven days. On the seventh day is a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.’ ”
Lev 23:9 And יהוה spoke to Mosheh, saying,
Lev 23:10 “Speak to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and you shall say to them, ‘When you come into the land which I give you, and shall reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest.
Lev 23:11 ‘And he shall wave the sheaf before יהוה, for your acceptance. On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it.
Lev 23:12 ‘And on that day when you wave the sheaf, you shall prepare a male lamb a year old, a perfect one, as a burnt offering to יהוה,
Lev 23:13 and its grain offering: two-tenths of an ĕphah of fine flour mixed with oil, an offering made by fire to יהוה, a sweet fragrance, and its drink offering: one-fourth of a hin of wine.
Lev 23:14 ‘And you do not eat bread or roasted grain or fresh grain until the same day that you have brought an offering to your Elohim – a law forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:15 ‘And from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, you shall count for yourselves: seven completed Sabbaths.
Lev 23:16 ‘Until the morrow after the seventh Sabbath you count fifty days, then you shall bring a new grain offering to יהוה.

That is my understanding as well.
However, several people I respect highly (including Yada) observe Firstfruits always on the 16th of Abib rather than fixing it to the first day of the week.

The biggest problem I see with that is counting "seven sabbaths" to the Feast of Weeks;
the argument commonly used is that they are "weeks" not "sabbaths", but I am not (yet?) convinced.

(Yada says that in 33AD, it was *both* -- the 16th was the first day of the week.)

Swalchy has quite a lot to say on the subject, check out his blog posting HERE. See what you guys make of it. Will be good to see other people's opinions on his recent study of the Feasts dating.

I really enjoyed Swalchy's article. Thanks for the heads up!

My take has been that they weren't to celebrate firstfruits after the exodus, while wandering in the wilderness, but only after entering the Promised Land. The fulfillment of this was in Joshua 5. I just led a study on this, and hope to post it soon.

Let me summarise:

Basically what it, and Swalchy, are saying is that the 14th (Passover) and 15th (Unleavened Bread) of the first month can fall on any day of the week; however, First Fruits always falls on the Sunday ("morrow after the Sabbath" Lev 23:16) during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Therefore there can be days in between Unleavened Bread (1st day) and First Fruits.

First Fruits then is day 1 of the 50 day count until the Feast of Weeks/Pentecost. That would mean the following Sabbath is day 7, the next 14, 21, 28, 35, 32, and the 7th Sabbath being day 49. That means Weeks/Pentecost is always on a Sunday, the 1st day of the Scriptural week. By using the Sabbath to count is makes it a lot easier to determine when Weeks/Pentecost is.