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Offline cgb2  
#1 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 2:46:10 PM(UTC)
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Sure, we'd all love to be able to afford LOGOs software and librarys of books, but some may be frustrated by the "check me out" and can't .....

Let's start a topic of free tools to analyze scripture, and also other websites that offer plug-in to these.
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#2 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 2:54:37 PM(UTC)
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E-Sword is free software. After installing there is a handy "download" menu to add plug-ins (most free).
Website is:
http://www.e-sword.net/
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#3 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 3:03:08 PM(UTC)
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E-Sword:

For looking at Ancient Hebrew pictograph letters and thier meanings within words the AHLB is a good one:
AHLB E-Sword lexicon (www.ancient-hebrew.org)
http://www.mechanical-tr...lation.org/2-esword.html
(note the fonts link too for correct display)

"The Scriptures" has YHWH/Yahushua's names in Hebrew script, restores other hebrew names, and removes pagan terminology,
ISR1998 E-Sword
http://www.isr-messianic.org/
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#4 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 3:11:23 PM(UTC)
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Here's links of same thing it goes to while using "download" menu within E-Sword:

Bibles:
http://www.e-sword.net/bibles.html
Comentaries:
http://www.e-sword.net/commentaries.html
Devotions:
http://www.e-sword.net/devotions.html
Dictionaries (Lexicons):
http://www.e-sword.net/dictionaries.html
Extras:
http://www.e-sword.net/extras.html
Graphics:
http://www.e-sword.net/graphics.html
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#5 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 3:35:55 PM(UTC)
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cgb2 wrote:
For looking at Ancient Hebrew pictograph letters and thier meanings within words the AHLB is a good one:
AHLB E-Sword lexicon (www.ancient-hebrew.org)
http://www.mechanical-tr...lation.org/2-esword.html
(note the fonts link too for correct display)


For windows users, modules would be placed in root of where E-Sword program installed (ie. C:\Program Files\E-Sword)

Special fonts would be installed in Windows font directory (ie. C\Windows\Fonts)
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:42:02 AM(UTC)
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Practical Example of using E-Sword in an email discussion on proving Messiah's name using E-Sword. Used the +KJV for strongs search engine. Dictionaries will show a symbol on what's available with the word chosen. In this example I used Strongs & Thayers for NT and BDB & Strongs for OT. The words I've surrounded in asterisks would actually been highlighted blue when I copied (cnrtl + c) and pasted (cntrl + v) into my email.
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So let’s do a study on the Messiahs name using established lexicons. Houston we have a problem :^)

Mat 1:21 AndG1161 she shall bring forthG5088 a son,G5207 andG2532 thou shalt callG2564 hisG846 nameG3686 **JESUS:G2424** forG1063 heG846 shall saveG4982 hisG848 peopleG2992 fromG575 theirG846 sins.G266
G2424
Ἰησοῦς
Iēsous
Thayer Definition:
Jesus = “Jehovah is salvation”
1) Jesus, the Son of God, the Saviour of mankind, God incarnate
2) Jesus Barabbas was the captive robber whom the Jews begged Pilate to release instead of Christ
3) Joshua was the famous captain of the Israelites, Moses’ successor (Act_7:45, Heb_4:8)
4) Jesus, son of Eliezer, one of the ancestors of Christ (Luk_3:29)
5) Jesus, surnamed Justus, a Jewish Christian, an associate with Paul in the preaching of the gospel (Col_4:11)

Strongs
G2424
Ἰησοῦς
Iēsous
ee-ay-sooce'
Of Hebrew origin [H3091]; Jesus (that is, Yahushua), the name of our Lord and two (three) other Israelites: - Jesus.


Gen 49:17 DanH1835 shall beH1961 a serpentH5175 byH5921 the way,H1870 an adderH8207 inH5921 the path,H734 that bitethH5391 **the horseH5483** heels,H6119 so that his riderH7392 shall fallH5307 backward.H268
H5483
סס / סוּס
sûs
BDB Definition:
1) swallow, swift
2) horse
2a) chariot horses
Part of Speech: noun masculine (extension)
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from an unused root meaning to skip (properly, for joy)
Strongs
H5483
סס סוּס
sûs sûs
soos, soos
From an unused root meaning to skip (properly for joy); a horse (as leaping); also a swallow (from its rapid flight): - crane, horse ([-back, -hoof]). Compare H6571.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:53:28 AM(UTC)
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Another example:
Love Paul or hate him, I originally found YY website from searching about the gross mistranslation of Romans 13. This example shows the bias of the King James (Strongs), with KJV preface indicating it's agenda was to support the "divine right of Kings". Note the primary definition of Strongs versus Thayers. Further study using greek interlinear in E-Sword in verse 3 show a double negative ignored so to twist opposite (magistrates good, versus generally evil because they oppose free will).
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Rom 13:1 Let everyG3956 soulG5590 be subjectG5293 unto the higherG5242 **powers.G1849** ForG1063 there isG2076 noG3756 powerG1849 butG1508 ofG575 God:G2316 (G1161) theG3588 powersG1849 that beG5607 areG1526 ordainedG5021 ofG5259 God.G2316

Strongs:
G1849
ἐξουσία
exousia
ex-oo-see'-ah
From G1832 (in the sense of ability); privilege, that is, (subjectively) force, capacity, competency, freedom, or (objectively) mastery (concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of control), delegated influence: - authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power, right, strength.

G1849
ἐξουσία
exousia
Thayer Definition:
1) power of choice, liberty of doing as one pleases
1a) leave or permission
2) physical and mental power
2a) the ability or strength with which one is endued, which he either possesses or exercises
3) the power of authority (influence) and of right (privilege)
4) the power of rule or government (the power of him whose will and commands must be submitted to by others and obeyed)
4a) universally
4a1) authority over mankind
4b) specifically
4b1) the power of judicial decisions
4b2) of authority to manage domestic affairs
4c) metonymically
4c1) a thing subject to authority or rule
4c1a) jurisdiction
4c2) one who possesses authority
4c2a) a ruler, a human magistrate
4c2b) the leading and more powerful among created beings superior to man, spiritual potentates
4d) a sign of the husband’s authority over his wife
4d1) the veil with which propriety required a women to cover herself
4e) the sign of regal authority, a crown
Part of Speech: noun feminine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G1832 (in the sense of ability)
Citing in TDNT: 2:562, 238
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:08:45 AM(UTC)
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Example of using free resources to verify the set-apart Spirit (Ruach HaKodesh) should be referred to as “She”- besides typical presentation with maternal characteristics:

(E-Sword +KJV as Strongs number search)
Gen 1:2 And the earthH776 wasH1961 without form,H8414 and void;H922 and darknessH2822 was uponH5921 the faceH6440 of the deep.H8415 And the **SpiritH7307**of GodH430 movedH7363 uponH5921 the faceH6440 of the waters.H4325

H7307
רוּח
rûach
BDB Definition:
1) wind, breath, mind, spirit
<definitions removed for brevity>
Part of Speech: noun feminine

“Noun Feminine” eh? So this verse isn’t redundant, it’s conveying a message:

Gen 1:27 And Elohim created the man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him – male and female He created them.

I only use Paul to demonstrate scribal tampering thru the ages. How oldest manuscripts used placeholders (not “pnuema” for Spirit), and link to see placeholders in P46 with your own eyes.


Rom 8:27 AndG1161 he that searchethG2045 theG3588 heartsG2588 knowethG1492 whatG5101 is theG3588 mindG5427 of theG3588 **Spirit,G4151** becauseG3754 he maketh intercessionG1793 forG5228 the saintsG40 accordingG2596 to the will of God.G2316

G4151
πνεῦμα
pneuma
Thayer Definition:
<definitions removed for brevity>
Part of Speech: noun neuter

If “neuter”, how do they justify “…**HE** maketh intercession…”?

Swalchy writes a good intro to the use of placeholders in ancient manuscripts here:
http://www.thewaytoyahuw...ranslations/introduction
Specifically – letters actually will have a bar over them:
ΠΝΑ, ΠΝΣ, ΠΝΙ, ΠΝΤΙ – These placeholders are used for the word Spirit (Strongs G4151)…

Now let’s go to University of Michigan p46 high quality images:
http://www.bible-researcher.com/links19.html
And although Romans 8:27 not in images, there are other ones where G4151 Spirit placeholder is used (Romans 15:19, 15:30, etc)
Here is link of scribes Greek character style for P46
http://www.lib.umich.edu...ng/Paul/paleography.html
Offline Daniel  
#9 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:05:28 AM(UTC)
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cgb2 wrote:
Hebrew Matthew (du Tillet Mathew):
http://www.inspiredreadi...m/MattithYAHu-Hebrew.pdf


Great resource!

Thanks for posting this.
Nehemiah wrote:
"We carried our weapons with us at all times, even when we went for water" Nehemiah 4:23b

We would do well to follow Nehemiah's example! http://OurSafeHome.net
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#10 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:34:10 AM(UTC)
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cgb2 wrote:
Hebrew Matthew (du Tillet Mathew):
http://www.inspiredreadi...m/MattithYAHu-Hebrew.pdf


is this free? I dl'ed the .pdf and this info was on one of the first pages...

Electronic version of Matitwhy in .pdf format for computers (Adobe Acrobat Reader allows reader to control font size).
Looks EXACTLY like the book.
1 CD: $9.95

I guess I am wondering if the author/copyright owner is ok with this link being freely shared?
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#11 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 1:55:51 AM(UTC)
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eh steve wrote:
is this free? I dl'ed the .pdf and this info was on one of the first pages...

Electronic version of Matitwhy in .pdf format for computers (Adobe Acrobat Reader allows reader to control font size).
Looks EXACTLY like the book.
1 CD: $9.95

I guess I am wondering if the author/copyright owner is ok with this link being freely shared?


Good point. I've deleted the link.

I've read both print versions of Hebrew Matthew and Hebrew Revelation (Chizayon) from:
http://www.torahzone.net/MORE-MESSIANIC-BOOKS/

....but also recently was disturbed by this:
http://www.messianichallofshame.com/
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#12 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 3:46:02 AM(UTC)
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I don't know for sure, but it looks like the $9.95 is just for the CD, so the download from internet version would be free.
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#13 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 3:47:19 AM(UTC)
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cgb2 wrote:
....but also recently was disturbed by this:
http://www.messianichallofshame.com/


Finally, someone who refers to Lew White, that is even nuttier than Lew White!

(LW's book has bunches of good stuff, along with some dubious information, too.)
Nehemiah wrote:
"We carried our weapons with us at all times, even when we went for water" Nehemiah 4:23b

We would do well to follow Nehemiah's example! http://OurSafeHome.net
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#14 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2011 8:18:25 AM(UTC)
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Yah Tselem wrote:
I don't know for sure, but it looks like the $9.95 is just for the CD, so the download from internet version would be free.


If it was I imagine it would have been posted here:
http://www.torahzone.net/FREE-PDF-DOWNLOADS/
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#15 Posted : Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:00:25 AM(UTC)
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Daniel wrote:
Finally, someone who refers to Lew White, that is even nuttier than Lew White!

(LW's book has bunches of good stuff, along with some dubious information, too.)


Agreed, and also troubling that that critical website is anonymous. I couldn't find any info on whos it is.
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#16 Posted : Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:07:11 AM(UTC)
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Link to free Dead Sea Scroll Isaiah translations:
http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/qumdir.htm
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#17 Posted : Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:16:04 AM(UTC)
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This website ultimately has word search with audio clips of proper pronunciation of words. Great if wanting to learn Hebrew:
http://www.searchgodsword.org/
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:53:00 AM(UTC)
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Has anyone tried "Accordance" software? How does it compare with Logos?
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#19 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:21:15 PM(UTC)
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PerrBear wrote:
Has anyone tried "Accordance" software? How does it compare with Logos?



hi PerrBear..I recommend you go to Amazon and read some of the ppl's reviews that have already tried out the software. Here's one if you want that I copied...

I have tried most of the free software out there, but this is a dream to use. I thought about Logos for the Mac, but it contained to many titles, that I would not use, as I am only interested in the meaning of the text. What I like about Accordance is that you buy only the titles you need, I can always add the extras later, besides I have most of all I need in books. Secondly, the software support is amazing. Oak Tree, software has put all their training videos up on their site for free download. Thirdly, I wanted original language software and that was what I got. Strong's numbers are there in a KJV if you need them, but I want to look at the Hebrew and Greek and have tools to work with the NA 27 & BHS. Accordance supplies these, and allows me to work with these texts.

It is the best Bible software out there,that I have used for the Mac platform, as I have not used any windows based products. It assists me with a workflow of translation and provides further information through add-ons is required. A real joy to use.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:31:36 PM(UTC)
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I'd better put the next review up. I reads like a counter reply to the 1st one...

I have had this program for over a year and well . I hate it, I changed over to Mac and this was the "be all to end all". Everything you need is in a different bundle which is a pain to try to find which bundle you need and if you have it with some other bundle you have already bought

The institution DVD ( I paid extra for) keeps saying how easy it is to use BUT I am always fighting with it ALWAYS, The DVD on how to learn the program is different then the windows they use on the version on my computer NUTS! What am I to do? I spent the hundreds hoping tI would live up to the hype. I have at time just skipped using the program and just used google for what I was looking for as I did not want the extra stress of fighting with the program yet again."
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#21 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2011 8:02:04 AM(UTC)
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cgb2 wrote:
This website ultimately has word search with audio clips of proper pronunciation of words. Great if wanting to learn Hebrew: here


Thank you for that wonderful link, brother!
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#22 Posted : Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:13:02 AM(UTC)
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Have any of you folks that have a good grasp of the hebrew alphabet ever heard of the astro alphabet and how much the two resemble each other?...I was watching this video, and 8 minutes in, the guy starts with the chart of both alphabets..

http://www.youtube.com/w...zUps&feature=related
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#23 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2011 1:42:17 AM(UTC)
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Well, I got about half way through this last night and if anyone else has read this or would like to, I'd like to hear your assesment on this page. I find it very telling, but then too, I don't even speak my own language that well....

http://sino-platonic.org...lete/spp196_alphabet.pdf
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#24 Posted : Saturday, June 11, 2011 5:53:42 AM(UTC)
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bump...for mailman Dan
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#25 Posted : Saturday, June 11, 2011 6:00:58 AM(UTC)
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#26 Posted : Sunday, May 13, 2012 9:29:12 AM(UTC)
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MySword (for android) also works great on kindle-fire, but have to enable "allow apps other than from amazon marketplace" before install.
I like this program even better than ESword on the PC.

Link is on the very bottom of this page:
http://www.isr-messianic.org/

One interesting thing I noticed when examining Genesis 1:1 (compare translations) the WEB had a note saying to the effect
"After Elohim (God) it also has aleph&Taw in the hebrew text"...I'll have to research that further because it sure doesn't show up on KJV with strongs numbers.
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Cgb2,

The aleph&taw is in Genesis 1:1 twice if you count

ואתH853
And
אתH853


H853
את
'êth
BDB Definition:
1) sign of the definite direct object, not translated in English but generally preceding and indicating the accusative
Part of Speech: untranslated particle
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: apparent contracted from H226 in the demonstrative sense of entity
Same Word by TWOT Number: 186

The aleph&taw sounds familiar:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with Elohim.

Rev 1:8 “I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, Beginning and End,” says יהוה “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Rev 1:9 I, Yoḥanan, both your brother and co-sharer in pressure, and in the reign and endurance of יהושע Messiah, came to be on the island that is called Patmos for the Word of Elohim and for the witness of יהושע Messiah.
Rev 1:10 I came to be in the Spirit on the Day of יהוה, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet,
Rev 1:11 saying, “I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the First and the Last,” and, “Write in a book what you see and send it to the seven assemblies of Asia – to Ephesos, and to Smurna, and to Pergamos, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodikeia.”

Rev 22:12 “And see, I am coming speedily, and My reward is with Me, to give to each according to his work.1 Footnote: 1See Mt. 16:27, John 5:29.
Rev 22:13 “I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.
Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those1 doing His commands,2 so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life, and to enter through the gates into the city. Footnotes: 1See Mt. 19:17. 2Long before the books were compiled to form “The New Testament,” Rev. 22:14 was quoted, as it is here given, by Tertullian (CE 208), and by Cyprian (CE 251) – see the well-known Antenicene Fathers.

Shalom
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#28 Posted : Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:03:08 AM(UTC)
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Informative free video regarding the history and nuances of the Hebrew language. 83 minutes long but lots of information.

A History of Hebrew
“Because he clings to Me, is joined to Me, loves and delights in Me, desires Me, therefore I will deliver him, carry him safely away, cause him to escape from harm making him inaccessible and strong, and delivering him safely to heaven, because he has known, observed, cared for, recognized, instructed and advised others to use, designated, acknowledged, discerned, answered in, My name, authority, character, report, mark, and nature." Psalm 91:14
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#29 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 5:23:32 PM(UTC)
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A great android app that can also be ran on Kindle-Fire is MySword. Really nice icon driven functions. BDB lexicon, can also add in ISR1998.

To install on kindle-fire you will first need to allow it:
gear icon > More+ > Device > Allow Installation of Applications - from unknown sources <on>

http://www.mysword.info/
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 6:40:33 AM(UTC)
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Haven't tried it yet, but from screenshots this looks quite useful and powerful:

http://www.theword.net/
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#31 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 7:12:27 AM(UTC)
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much better than e-sword
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I have downloaded and installed the application and several add-ons. I like it already. Thanks, Chuck!
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, October 3, 2012 2:44:42 PM(UTC)
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flintface wrote:
I have downloaded and installed the application and several add-ons. I like it already. Thanks, Chuck!


Although I searched hi&low for the post recommending this software I could'nt find it and finally resorted to looking at browser history in my kindle. Was that your post needhelp?
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#34 Posted : Thursday, October 4, 2012 3:04:38 AM(UTC)
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yep.

easier to navigate, more modules, as many windows open
as desired,( I usually have at least 6 or 7 you'd think I could
translate much better with all the info), can convert e-sword
modules, good maps. If you need more modules maybe I
can help. 35 Bibles, over 100 books,commentaries, lexicons
dictionaries, charts and maps.
Others that are not modules also. Mostly .pdfs can convert to other formats eg. epub, mobi and more if needed. Calibre another
good program for reading and conversion
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#35 Posted : Thursday, October 4, 2012 5:12:57 AM(UTC)
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Scriptorium -- another pretty good program. Not quite as advanced.
http://www.gnostic-scriptorium.com


Bible Pro -- not bad , overrated (just my opinion
http://bibleocean.com/


Sword Project -- haven't used it much
http://www.crosswire.org


Davar -- kept crashing , deleted it


All freeware
Still looking for more programs, books, etc.

Offline Sheree  
#36 Posted : Thursday, May 2, 2013 5:43:43 AM(UTC)
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great links and info,thanks to allBigGrin
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#37 Posted : Thursday, December 19, 2013 7:24:04 AM(UTC)
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