Great point sirgodfrey.....thank you, that makes alot of sense. I think at this point I am talking a little too much to others about my discoveries, without being totally prepared to back them up....especially since I am mostly dealing with Christians that are NOT trying to hear that their religion and all they have been taught is questionable.

Back in May, I used my Archaeological Study Edition of the NIV (Not Inspired Version) and read through the Apostolic Narratives of the Life of Yahushua (that's Matthew, Mark, Olivia-Newton-John for you christians out there) to find all of the references to His Name.

I came up with a count of 45 occurrences. (Remember this number, you will need it later.)

Ask your christian friends:

"Whose name is to be called upon for salvation?"

"How many names can be called upon for salvation?"

"What are the other names that we can call upon for salvation?"

Most christians will say something to the effect of, "there is only one name by which we are saved.."

Then point out that 'Jesus' refers to His or His Father's name 45 times in the 'gospels', and say "You must agree that He seems to think The/His Name is important, having referred to it 45 (or more) times!"

If they don't agree with this point, the conversation is over. Stop. There is no point in wasting your breath. Really, I mean it. They will not change their mind and you will only get angry.

If they do agree, bring up the fact that 'Jesus' wasn't speaking English. (not even King James English, even that was more than 1,000 years in the future!)

Then say something like, "If you are entering into a contract, covenant or testament with someone, isn't it important that both parties use their real names on the contract?"

"If someone uses a fake name on a contract, the contract is null and void, right?"

(At this point, typically, their eyes go out of focus)

"You have entered into a verbal contract with a false name on it."

"Wouldn't it be a good idea to get His Name right?"

"You want Him to know your name, don't you think you should know His name?"

Hopefully, they will, at this point, ask, "Ok, smart guy, what is His name?"


Interestingly, the Archaeological Study Edition of the NIV includes a footnote in each of the synoptic "gospels" where the name "Jesus" first comes up that says "in Hebrew: Yahushua"! It also has an article (near Exodus 33) about the Tetragrammaton, including paleo-Hebrew, modern renderings and pronunciation. A later article regarding 'the rise of monotheism' talks about 'Yahweh' vs. other gods... The 'translator's notes' section also confesses that LORD is used in lieu of YHWH... So even this edition of this sad translation can be used to help people start looking for the truth.


(Confession: I read my Archaeological Study Edition of the NIV for the same reason that other people say they subscribe to Playboy Magazine, for the articles!)

(But I also look at the pictures!)

(The pictures in my Archaeological Study Edition of the NIV, that is!)

We should also take into consideration that Peter teaches the same things in his books, for example a woman should submit to her husband (1 Peter 3:1-7), submission to elders (1 Peter 5:5), not exercise authority over a man [husband] (Genesis 3:16), etc. To respect one's spouse and family and submit to elders is a Torah concept, see Genesis 3:16 and Leviticus 19:3,32 for examples.

Head coverings? Men should be men, and women should be women. A Torah concept, and something stressed in the book of First Corinthians. The following two quotes should provide some insight:





Paul was simply warning against idolatry and being associated with it. A woman using a head covering was a temporary solution until she had long hair, because no doubt there were some women who were ex-temple prostitutes.

In my opinion, Paul gave sound advise to a people belonging to a city known for its sexual immorality who had written a letter to him. He wasn't laying on a burden nor was he adding to the Torah.

Women being silent? The passage of 1 Corinthians 14:34 is debatable, especially in that there scholars who say Paul was quoting it from the Corinthians letter to him. In other words, the passage "Women should be silent... as the Torah says" is not a command from Paul, but a quote of something they were teaching, something he now pointed out to be wrong. We should also note that just a few verses earlier he stated it's fine for women to prophesy in public. Turning to 1 Timothy 2:11-12, the passage reads: "Let and allow a wife to learn and be taught, instructed and explained the meaning of things, be increased in knowledge and be informed, come to understand and discover the truth, find out and ascertain wisdom and be trained in skills and comprehension in, by and with stillness and tranquillity, inward calm and in a loving and peaceful way, easily and at leisure in, by and with every individual and collective kind of subjection, submissiveness and cooperation. Moreover, I do not turn upon or permit, allow or entrust, give leave to or instruct a wife to teach, explain or instruct through discourses and discussions, nor to domineer or tower, tyrannise or intimidate, menace or overbear, badger or provoke a husband*, but nevertheless, notwithstanding and on the contrary, to be and exist in, by and with stillness and tranquillity, inward calm and in be a loving and peaceful way, at ease and at leisure." In other words, Paul was actually saying it is good for women to be taught the Torah, because in Jewish society of that day women were generally not permitted to learn Torah.

I must admit that without the letter to Paul we only have half the picture, but it seems clear to me this letter was directed specifically to the Corinthians and the problems they were dealing with.

Coming back to the "Paul is supposedly a homosexual because he claimed to be celibate and loved Timothy" from the QP Letters thread. I need to remind people of Yahshua's own words in Matthew 19:12 where He says some have chosen to live as a eunuch for the sake of the Kingdom.

If Paul's letter to the Believers in Corinth, is regarded as 'just a letter', ie: personal correspondence, and not 'the inspired word of God', then there is no problem.



I don't think that Matthew is defending Paul's personal correspondence as scripture.

Paul was an itinerant first century evangelist who was always getting into hot water with The Disciples.

"Rome" was the first organization that was able to make the assertion that his personal correspondence was 'scripture', stick.

It is not clear that even Paul himself would have defended his personal correspondence as 'scripture'.

We don't have to attack nor defend Paul's writings anymore than the writings of John Wesley, Jerry Falwell or Jerry Garcia.

Once you are able to jettison the thought that Paul's letters are scripture, the confusing stuff of christianity just melts away.

(For a more thorough treatment of this subject, be sure to pick up a copy of my 600 page book: Ignoring Paul.)





If I may paraphrase MadDog's statements: YHWH commands us (and by implication, MadDog, too) to be fruitful and multiply, but then MadDog says that it is just too hard for MadDog to actually follow that command.

Or is it that MadDog is following what Paul said in his personal correspondence in 1 Cor 7:6-9?

(I think I gotcha, there, sailor-man!)

;-)

Maybe this could be a short book like this :^)
http://danwho.net/mp/index.php?id=snl_dontbuystuff

hey Daniel. Your book sounds like a winner, kids love dinosaurs and spaceships. Did you hear the latest? It's being called, "The Gun Walker Story." If it pans out and it's ends up being true, we might be saying bye to the, ATF.

I've always said that in order to tell a convincing lie, it is best to hide it between two truths. If you are pitting Yahweh/Yashua against Paul, then there is no contest. I would then suggest you are in dangerous waters when you are so ready to uphold Paul above or equal to Yahweh's Torah. What Paul said about circumcision and eating clean/unclean food was just enough to cast doubt on the Torah, Prophet, and Psalms AND he had signs and miracles to back him up. Remember what happend at the garden of Eden, Yahweh's one and only commandment, and both Adam and Chavah couldn't get it right and they were supposed to be "perfect." I think you know what Yashua meant by "mother, brother, sister" i.e. family.





This is really a non-issue, the part of whether we should encourage people to be married and have children part. I am more concerned whether I'll even make it to heaven at all, let alone worrying about other people whom I don't even know. The way I see it is if I can't even take care of my own self, how am I going to be able to carry the burden for someone else. If I were married and had children, I'd be far more concerned for their salvation then some stranger on the street.

There will always be wars and tribulation up until the actual tribulation and towards the end of the Millennium Sabbath. I mention the Millennium Sabbath because it appears that those of us who are put in charge of the nations during that time period will have once again goofed despite having "perfect" living conditions. I wouldn't worry about people getting married and having children, it's going to happen and if you've been paying attention to the news then there should be no doubt that we are at the cusp of something big.



And what is the will of my Father exactly Matthew? According to you, nothing, absolutely nothing. No circumcision, no kosher diet, not even observing the Feasts of Yahweh will do. Except for maybe studying the Torah, Prophet, and Psalms but that for sure doesn't guarantee salvation either and therefore Yahshua's sacrifice was in vain because Yahshua claimed he fulfilled the Torah, Prophet, and Psalms, didn't he? How exactly did he accomplish observing the Torah without the Ark of the Covenant? So someone is lying or just plain wrong, who could it be? Yahweh, Yahshua, Paul, and now even maybe you Matthew.

Lastly, notice that he pointed to his disciples and that he said "for whosoever" and not "and whosoever" unless that is just a bad translation which I wouldn't doubt.

Can you tell me what it takes to be "saved?" Can you point me to the right path towards Yahweh? If I don't even know 100% if I'm really saved, how am I supposed to help others? If I am wrong about Yahweh then all I'll be doing is spreading a lie and thus damning more people, including family.

In brotherly love I say the following:



Hopefully I will never suggest Paul as equal to or above God; however, I will defend what I believe to be baseless claims made against him. To some it might seem that I’m defending him as a divine being, but I’m not; rather, just arguing against the notion that he is somehow evil. While at the same time pointing out what I find to be flaws found in Yada's Questioning Paul.



We cannot literally observe the Feasts of Yahweh, even Yahweh says a person who has touched a dead body or is away on a journey cannot celebrate the Passover but must do it at the second appointed time. If the Torah has to be kept on our part then it has to be done in accordance to the Torah, to the rules and regulation it specifies. Please note that I am taking this very literally. Verse 14 of Numbers 9 says foreigners have the same regulations as native Jews if they reside in the Land. If we take off work for the Festival of Unleavened Bread or build tents as tabernacles during the Festival of Succoth are we literally keeping it? The answer is no obviously. I don't believe I have ever said we should not spiritually observe it or reject it; in fact I think it's great and encourage that we take off work and get together to celebrate what Yahweh has done and will do for us and have fellowship with our family and friends. They truly have memorial and educational value and we would be stupid not to spiritually observe them. But we should not think we are keeping it as per Torah said we should. We should celebrate it as a means to express our gratitude and thankfulness to Yahuweh, do it in remembrance, but we should not do it believing we are somehow earning salvation through our own sweat, blood and obedience. The Torah clearly says we cannot buy our salvation through our own means, we cannot pay a ransom for our souls. See the story regarding the 6 Cities of Refuge in Numbers 35, notably verse 31.

If a temple existed you can bet your [fill in appropriate word] that I would be making missions to Israel. I would probably even uproot myself to go live there if that was possible. But there is no temple, and I do not live in Israel for now. There is no Levitical priesthood. Does that somehow exempt me from having to literally abide by all of the Torah? Obviously not, since we should still love God and love our neighbour, “for this sums up the Torah and the Prophets.”

Nowhere did I say to do God’s will is to do absolutely nothing. However, in a way yes we do nothing to receive salvation, because after all it is a gift freely given to us, it's something we accept, not something we earn. Through the Sabbath Law we find we cannot work for our salvation, but must simply rest in God for it. So how can we do the works/will of God? Yahshua answered that: John 6:28-29!

Numbers 9 is an interesting study in itself. If we are a follower of Yahweh through Yahshua then Passover is a thing of the past, it’s done and fulfilled, we caught it at the first opportunity. However, of course if someone (i.e. the Jews) has missed it then they better take the second opportunity not to miss it. Not that Yahshua will die again, but the Jews were unclean on account of a dead body, they had Yahshua killed. They missed the first opportunity but will get a second chance during the Time of Jacob's Trouble to recognize their Messiah. Numbers 9 being prophetic in that regard. However, if a person was in a position to accept Yahweh’s grace through Yahshua the first time (in other words while alive) but did not, then they’ve disqualified themselves from any second opporunity. And that’s a scary thought. Numbers 35:32 also highlights that someone cannot buy Yahshua's pardon and protection even if they're guilty of something (unintentionally killing the Messiah as opposed to murdering Him), but have to simply accept Yahshua's death as the thing that pardons them.

Again, you'll be hard-pressed to find me saying "we must not be circumcised." I'm taking the Torah's precepts in fact very literally in regards to circumcision. I am not employed by a Jew, no Jew has physically bought me for employment, and I am not living in the Land of Israel, therefore I do not see a command for me to get circumcised, even though I am already circumcised. However; spiritually I have had my heart circumcised, been bought and employed by a Jew, and live in His Kingdom. We can say: having taken hold of the first Passover. But I will say that if you believe being physically circumcised, apart from Yahshua, saves you then I can say quite confidently that the circumcision will be done in vain. It has no saving power in itself. And if you choose to be circumcised as a means to save yourself but then stumble at any other law then your circumcision will be worthless. And that's obvious, don't even need to read Paul (Romans 2:25), James (Jacob/James 2:10), and John (1 John 3:4).

Also, if the Torah saved, if the blood of goats and bulls, circumcision, et cetera saved, if it could cleanse one from sin - the goal of our salvation - then there would be no need for the promise of Jeremiah 31:31-34. If the work of the high priest truly worked then there would be no need for the High Priest.



Yahshua's own words: John 3:16.

Only One Guy was able to do that...

...and you saw what they did to Him!

Shalom Brothers,

I've notice while reading the replys here that many are saying that know one is saying that Paul's letters were inspired or that they were scripture. I see that from those that agree with Paul & those that oppose Paul. I would say I would have to diagree, Paul did claim that his writings were scripture, therefore inspired. He made the claim in :

1 Cor.14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of Yahweh .

So, I would say that those that oppose Paul can now say he is claiming to speak for Yahweh. That his message contradicts the Torah, Prophets, & Psalms, thereby making him a false prophet. Then those that agree with Paul letters must now stop riding the fence, by saying his letters are not inspired or scripture, but they are useful. If you agree with Paul then you have to acknowledge that the things that he wrote were & are the commandments of Yahweh. Atleast his letters to the Corinthins, if not all.

Sorry, no-sale, TBT!

Let us at least look at the context of that sentence:



Asserting that Mr. OfTarsus is saying "everything I write is Scripture" is kind of a stretch.

Could it be that he is saying that [all that stuff he just said in the preceding paragraph] is "a command of the Lord"?

If the stuff he said about how to handle prophesy within the congregation is in line with what is written down in the Torah, then what Mr. OfTarsus is repeating/paraphrasing "a command of the Lord".

Yea, well that's the problem with Paul isn't it Daniel. We don't really know what he is trying to say most of the time. We know for sure though, that women better keep their mouths shut, according to Paul. He was pretty clear about that. The rest of the stuff he said in that exerpt was jibberish.

So when Paul want's to be clear, he certainly can be. I have a hard time figuring out why people still find this self proclaimed apostle relevent. Because he mixes something from the Torah in with his jibberish once in a while, were supposed to take him seriously? Why is it so hard to just disregard what he says altogether?

Maybe those who love Paul's elegant writings can enlighten us all on why women better shut their mouths.

Noah

Yeah yeah yeah - and no, I am not trying to bring to life a thread that clearly died several weeks ago already...

But where else to put this? I hate Paul/Sha'uwl and all things Pauline Doctrine related...if Yah was so kind to me so as to get me out of first, the RCC demonically inspired religious scheme, and then to,number two, get me out of Paul's pagan christianity that's the twin sister of the RCC...then I think I've been so blessed to have eyes to both see, and eyes to empathsize with those who've been bound up by, at least in the case of these two religious systems, by the adversary (Atheists are so blessed by Yah and don't even know it)...as I was trying to point out during the chat on the blogtalkradio program today: Paul's stuff is so gooy and sticky and damn near impossible to get it unhinged from a person's mind because its saturates every fabric of a person's being - and as Yada pointed out: it's so all pervasive that it is by default, paraphrasing, the very woof and warp of what has become the United States of America.

Paul divides everything up into all their pieces and parts -and as if that werent enough- he then superspiritualizes everything to his liking; and he's actually very good at picking and choosing what he likes over and against what he doesn't: he's extremely biased and zealous over his interpretation; so naturally all Paul's children, by default, our guilty of doing what Paul did to Calvary over and against what Yah did to fulfill Towrah Prophets and Psalms...and the 7 Feasts/Celebrations He invites us to observe and participate with Him in...

Trace America's roots and the entire history of America is more likened to that of Egypt all over again...it's only via Yah's allowing misguided christians to be a blessing to Yisrael via US policy that's allowed America to prosper away from having a relationship with Yah...and I agree with what Daniel said before about as bad as RCC is, christians, paraphrasing, have gone from the vice of RCC and went screaming away from Yah in the opposite direction...and besides all that, Christians are more interested in figuring out where and who the antichrist is they don't have time to know Yahowah as He's revealed Himself and as He wants to be know: which is laughable for sure James...because we are to Paul's Christians: antichrist; to the Jews: antimessiah; to Islam anti-muslim's the fifth Imam...

Roughly 8 months prior to even knowing about YY, I came to the conclusion (thank you Yahowah) that Yahowah's name was important (Yahwey was how I spelled and said it back then; figuring out if my name is important to me, I was certain His name was important to Him too...not to even mention Yah indicating the Branch would come in His name and the term 'Jesus' made no sense) and began mentally changing the terms God, the Lord, and Jesus with what I thought His names were: names I now know as Yahowah Yahowsha' Ruwach Qodesh. It wasn't easy. I had to train my mind to think His literal names over names man gave Him until it became common place...after roughly eight months I came across YY and initially rejected it as blasphame...followed about three months later to picking up QP once again, and this time I just trusted Yah He'd protect me from falling through the cracks down a religious rabbit hole into the abyss - to the point now, I sincerely hate all things Paul/Sha'uwl with a passion; have I been brainwashed? Well, I now love Yah and His Torah Prophets and Psalms over anything else this world has to offer...I love and have come to know Yahowah the way He wants us to know Him, the way He's chosen to reveal Himself to us (after all, He's the Creator and Father and He can set the rules of His house however He so chooses...it's His' baby) and the way He's outlined a seven step plan to bring us to Himself without spot or wrinkle in which He does all the work and I simply trust and rely upon Him...

So no, I am not brainwashed at all, but some 98.9999% of this 21 century world we're living in is/are most definitely brainwashed with there being 1000s of acceptable ways to get to God with Yah's way being resoundedly rejected 98.9999% of the time...

Thank Yah for His T,P,Psalms, and for His provision for us in the seven called-out assembly meetings He's given to us as a gift, and for YY and the blogtalkradio's return...I'll be using my wife's computer tomorrow - today's use of my personal computer was a waste; though I am now listening to the program I missed earlier...alas

I had a catholic customer today tell me about his prayer in church about a yr ago and how it helped his father in the hospital die a quite death...This was after me, telling him, "I will be open for work tomorrow, bc it's my double portion day"..lol. He didn't have the foggiest idea of what I was talking about. So after he got back into his, prayer story, I just ended the conversation there with him , and said, "listen, you don't want me telling you what I really think of religion, bc after I'm done, you won't like me much." Again, this guy wanted to hear it to my amazement, again. That's 4 this week. I'm on a roll!!!..Well, alittle Abraham and Isaac, mixed with Moses and Torah, and then telling him there should not be a new testament, that the Covenant of Moses, or like I say, "gaurding His Commandments,"was just being confirmed by Yahushua and religion is the reason of all the confusion. He hung on the phone long enough to at least agree in some measure. So, what is the measuring stick I thought to myself after hanging up? And then sitting there just thinking it hit me loud and clear. " The Word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light to my path."

AND ... as the Scripture promises,


We are taught that waters always refer to people. So, you keep tossing out the seeds of His Word to those around you. He will let you see the results over time.

I know I'll be preaching to the choir, as they say - but as I continue my journey out of all things religions in nature, I just have to 'spit' it out:

Christians are blind as bats!

Having had another lively discussion with family regarding Yah's Towrah vs Paul...they, Christians, know Paul very well. Oh, they can recite Paul's stuff going backwards and forwards; and yes, because they don't know Yahowah at all, they see the God of the Towrah is cruel, mean, uncompromising - who zapped people all over the place; doesn't matter that the Yisrael that left Egypt were loaded full of pagan babylon, and that Yah was cutting out a family for Himself out of these people; many of whom would reject His loving admonishments because they were to blind to see that what Yahowah was doing was very loving and very jealous about His family, preferring instead (just as Christians do) to see His Towrah as cruel and intolerant.

It is not any different from my perspective in seeing the 'esh/fire (our Spiritual Mother) on Sanai was enveloping and nurturing, and refreshing for Moseh, was also the 'esh/fire that turned solid rocks into molten lava...is no different than to those making up His family His prescriptions and instructions are invitations whereas others see the same Towrah instructions as a summons; proper perspective and understanding in our mind and hearts makes a huge difference between seeing Yahowah as Paul and Christianity does, vs what Yah reveals to us about Himself...

Thank Yah, we're going home - which is exactly why Yahowah gave us 15 billion years of His creative evidence and information (He expounds upon in His Towrah, Prophets, and Psalms exclusively) in which we can know and come to understand Him by just so He could focus on cutting out for Himself, during this 6000 years of man being on earth, a family to share His eternity with Him in....all religions blind people to this generous offer by Yah.

Alas - finally made it to Chay chapter of YY Book I Genesis; Yippie!

Having read 'Owr twice; all I can say is: WOW! That, and: Praise Yah!

As I journey my way out of all things Paul (God, I hate Paul - what a complete fraud he and his writings are...), all things religion, I find myself watching EWTN and TBN and INSPIR channels (on mute - I only want to see their paganism at play for all the world to see - and how they 'MUST' quote from Paul's 'junk'; Paul's 'junk' like a sugar coating so as to faciliate the swalling of his B.S. version of all Yah ever said or ever did)...and have discovered whereas the Catholics are over in their pagan 'sun-god' worship, Christians are covert in worshipping the same pagan diety.

I also hate when pagan christians using their errant King James biblios (sun-goddess scripts) dive into Yah's Towrah Prophets and Palms - all of which does one thing only: elevates Paul and Paul's writings in the hearts and minds of people...Yes, modern English translations promote Pauline Doctrine from Genesis to Revelations...as others have said is so true, take Paul's letters out, and all one has left is returning to Towrah for salvation which is what God wanted in the first place.

Paul really did put a road block up to Yah's Towrah...I can't wait until God destroys Christianity!

and another:
judaismvschristianity.com,
and another:
truthseekers.com, (with member forum)
and another:
qumran.com/paul/index.html

more upon request

Sounds plausible to me, Heretic Steve; why not?

Insofar as I can tell, and because of Sha'uwl's influences we now have a New Testament with Paul's letters embedded, having been empowered, sitting right in the middle of it all; saying things God never said - giving us definitions/meanings/a version of how things went down Yah never intended. Paul, and those who believe him, are in direct opposition to all God said, did, or will do in the future...remove Paul's 'stinking' letters and people who want to find God are left to go in one direction only: to the Towrah, for answers - it is just like satan to setup shop right in the middle of the awesome works of Yah in Pesach Matsah and Birkurym (followed 50 days later with Shabuwa', on time and in keeping with Yah's 6+1=7 Mow'ed Miqra'ey means of adopting us into His family Yisra'el, without money and without cost)...

So seriously speaking, projecting Paul's rendition of what Yah was doing makes Yahowsha' being a 'stumbling-block' all the more costly/meaningful for those who believe Paul's machiavellian ways - the Family sees Yah working salvation on behalf of His family (Yisra'el) as was promised Abraham: EXCLUSIVELY, of which we can all be adopted into as Gentiles, Yah providing the same 'means' via the same Towrah message with the Covenant Relationship that's been given to the Yahowdym/Yisra'el, the natural born members of Yah's family - - satan's got Paul interpreting Yah's Towrah as meaning: Yahowsha' saving the whole world in His blood being by grace through faith and not of works lest anyone boasts producing a Towrah-less church with christians, who reject the Towrah, as God's chosen people having replaced Yisra'el at worst; at best has the church sharing in the blessings of Yisra'el (of which Yah didn't create nor does He even want a Towrah-less driven church with a New Testament that circumvents people coming to Him by His 6+1=7 Mow'ed Miqra'ey's perfect plan to save us by) - and christians believe this bunk; proof they're as blind as bats. Yahowah was/is/ and will alway be about saving His 'Family' via His family orientated covenant relationship

More and more I am beginning to see more clearly how it is political leaders can mingle and intermarry religious leaders being manipulated by elites...elites know all religions are an opiate of the masses, and none more so than the three 'Biggies': Judaism Christianity and Islam. These same elites know there is a God, and there's satan - and they've picked their side with its sex power and wealth...and working with satan, are manipulating the religious married to politics for more sex power and wealth...and the religious never learn; it's impossible for the religious to learn because they are hanging on to 'myths' and man-made religious scams with the same tenaciousness a politician has toward being elected/re-elected.

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You've got that right encounterHim, imho

And just like clock-work, christians will be driven by their feelings wrapped in phoney patriotism waving the flag, and will reach in deep and do all they can to ensure Perry gets elected over Obama even if it takes more hanging chads or secretary of states to malign elections just like Paul's doing whatever it takes, including compromising truth and principles, if it'll get one person saved in his gott's spell of gracious...and christians being Towrah-less will go along for the ride as they always have to their own bewilderment...

satan's certainly not going to fix it since it ain't broken....may be a reason women were a very big part of Paul's early works in building a church filled with christians for his god which isn't Yahowah...satan, as do all religions, seem to target women knowing if they can get the women motivated the men and children will follow whether they're really engaged and/or want to, or not.

Besides all that, if it worked for Bush it'll work for Perry with the right spin and PR...people like lies more than they like the truth; how is that possible? Are people brainwashed to hate God that much that they really do prefer lies?

So, this is the scenario. The most influential person in history is Paul if one uses the criteria for 'influential' as the number of people who hold to a specific, poligious ideology. In the case of Paul, a self confessed demoniac, this would be christianity.
The number two most influential person in history, and for the same reason, is Muhammad. Also a self confessed demoniac.
Number three would be Adam Weishaupt, a demoniac as well.
So currently, the most influential men in all of history were demoniacs although a strong case can be made for Nimrod who got the religious ball rolling in the first place. And then of course there's the AM who will likely leap to first place around mid-trib and for the same reason.
This is swell, just swell. No wonder this world is in such a mess. Of course christians, (thanks to Paul's propaganda), think that some fella named Jesus Christ come down from Heaven and started a new religion named christianity which would make JC the most influential person in history when the reality is that Yahowsha never even makes the cut. Few know when He was born, died, resurrected, when He will return, or His name, and that's because few know what He taught.

Those not hearing the voice of the Holy Ghost...wouldn't





Wow, so Paul was a satanist and God does not use women to do anything....interesting







OK, so this mean God Himself is incapable of controlling what is canonized as being His written Word... what and indictment against God Almighty!

Interesting...never heard of anybody claiming Paul was of the devil and his writings were not inspired of the Holy Ghost and were not intended by God to be in the NT, yet the rest of the NT is accepted....

Alrighty then, you’ve been using this one all over the place so it’s about time I teach you the truth on this one too.
There is no holy ghost in Scripture. In fact Yahowah condemns speaking to ghosts. There is however a Set-Apart Spirit. Everywhere in your English bible you read holy ghost the Hebrew is Ruwach HaQowdesh, the Set-Apart and Cleansing Spirit. Holy is a manmade religious term that has nothing to do with the Hebrew qowdesh.

God cannot control what man does, that is what free will is all about. God will not interfere with man’s free will. Man misused his free will to create the canonized bible. As I have already stated elsewhere God gave us a way to test if something comes from Him.

Really it’s actually fairly common if you look around a bit, and are willing to get out of your comfort zone. Even Thomas Jefferson said, "Paul was the first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus." So it’s not exactly a new idea.

it really does defy all logical; but it sure is understandable how ha-satan keeps getting away with the same bag of worn-out dirty tricks.

Ha-satan being the whore did the same exact same thing with Ma'aseyah Yahowsha' (the Upright Implement of Yahowah doing the works of saving us) as what was done in the Garden of Eden - throughout the entire T,P,P witness you see the same pollutions by this whore.

Adam and Chawah being the crowning jewel, if you will, of Yah's 6+1=7 creation account - Adam and Chawah having a nephesh, also had a neshamah (were to model/witness the completeness of Yahowah as He truly exists: as a Father, a Mother, a Son within Himself: as a FAMILY), unlike that of the other men and women of Yah's creation - those out building their fortified and walled-cities and fortresses like while animals only having a nephesh were to be witnessed to by Yah through Adam and Chawah's example of being in family orientated relationship with Yahowah as their Father, and not just as God their Creator only - Yah made it personal with Adam and Chawah.

BTW, Abel proved he'd learned from his folks that Yah was all about relationship: Family Orientated Covenant Relationship - where as Cain taking the same information Abel had wanted to do as what ha-satan had Adam Chawah & Paul - the entire christian world view doing: turn the works of Yah to facilitate relationship into another stinking religion.

Same things going to happen again when Yah miraculously delivers Yisra'el out of ha-satan's hands of the Gog Magog war's going to stand up and take credit for it to further advance his global religion married to politics and economics.

I think it should be normal, and if it isn't, then somethings wrong...I even get upset when I come across ppl named after him.

If James, the brother of the Messiyah couldn't defend him any longer after finding out he was teaching against the instructions

and the ppl, how can we not feel sick when we even hear that guys name.