What qualifies a quote to get the status of a direct quote from the Old Covenant Scriptures? For example, Luke 1:69-70 says (and I apologise for my quick NIV cut and paste):

"He has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David (as he said through his holy prophets of long ago)"

Would the following Old Covenant verses qualify:

1 Samuel 2:1 "Then Hannah prayed and said, 'My heart exults in Yahweh; My horn is exalted in Yahweh, My mouth speaks boldly against my enemies, Because I rejoice in Your salvation.'"

1 Samuel 2:10 "Those who contend with Yahweh will be shattered; Against them He will thunder in the heavens, Yahweh will judge the ends of the earth; And He will give strength to His king, And will exalt the horn of His anointed."

Psalm 18:2 "Yahweh is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold."

Psalm 89:17 "For You are the glory of their strength, And by Your favor our horn is exalted."

Psalm 132:17 "There I will cause the horn of David to spring forth; I have prepared a lamp for Mine anointed."

Ezekiel 29:21 "On that day I will make a horn sprout for the house of Israel, and I will open your mouth in their midst. Then they will know that I am Yahweh."

So what qualifies a verse and what disqualifies a verse?

I reckon only direct quotes qualify, which I think is the case of Swalchy's work-in-progress, and prophetic fulfillment I reckon should be put under a separate heading unless of course the author specifically quoted an Old Covenant verse to show prophetic fulfillment. Maybe there should be a seperate heading such as this Luke one which doesn't seem like a direct quote at first but is definitely in reference to an Old Covenant passage with similar words used.

Perhaps too we should highlight quotes that contain placeholders ;)

Great work you start Swalchy!!!

PS: Did anyone notice a link between Luke 1:69 and Psalm 18:2 which says that Yahshua is the horn of salvation and Yahweh is the horn of salvation respectively, in other words confirming the Yahshua is Yahweh?

(and when I said this a while back, and tried to explain it, people laughed. Oh well...enjoy...and with the term Jehovah here I am referring to יהוה Elohim not Master יהוה. The two are mostly different, but this is another topic)...

Other scriptural comparisons of Jehovah (Elohim) to Jesus

Jehovah is our shepherd
Psalm 23:1; Isaiah 40:11

Jesus is our shepherd
John 10:11

Jehovah is the I AM
Exodus 3:14 Jehovah (Yahweh) means "He Is."

Jesus Christ is the I AM
John 8:58, Revelation 1:8

Jehovah is our creator
Isaiah 44:24

Jesus Christ is our creator
John 1:3, Colossians 1:16

Jehovah is our redeemer
Jeremiah 1:34, Isaiah 47:4

Jesus Christ is our redeemer
Galatians 3:13; Revelation 5:9; Titus 2:14; Luke 24:21

Jehovah is our savior
Isaiah 43:3,10; 45:21,22; 60:16; 49:26

Jesus is our savior
1 John 4; Luke 2:11; 2 Timothy 1; Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1

Jehovah is our creator
Isaiah 44:24

Jesus Christ is our creator
John 1:3, Colossians 1:16

More on Jehovah as Jesus

• Jehovah knows “all things.” (1 John 3:20; Psalm 147:5) Jesus knows “all things.” (John 16:30)
• Jehovah is the only one who knows the hearts of all men. (1 Kings 8:39; Jeremiah 17:9-10) Jesus knows the hearts of all men. (John 2:24-25; Rev. 2:18, 23)
• Jehovah is our sanctifier. (Exodus 31:13) Jesus sanctifies us. (Hebrews 10:10)
• Jehovah is our peace. (Judges 6:23) Jesus is our peace. (Ephesians 2:14)
• Jehovah is our righteousness. (Jeremiah 23:6) Jesus is our righteousness. ( 1 Corinthians 1:30)
• Jehovah is our healer. (Exodus 15:26) Jesus heals us. (Acts 9:34)
• Jehovah God dwells in us. (2 Corinthians 6:16) Jesus is in us. (Romans 8:10)2.
• Jehovah is the giver of life who will not allow His people to be “snatched” out of His hand. (Deuteronomy 32:39) Jesus is the giver of life who will not allow His people to be “snatched” out of His hand. (John 10:28)
• Jehovah’s voice is “like the roar of rushing waters.” (Ezekiel 43:2) Jesus’ “voice was like the sound of rushing waters.” (Revelation 1:15)
• Jehovah is present everywhere. (Proverbs 15:3; Jeremiah 23:24; I Kings 8:27) Jesus is omnipresent. (John 1:48; Matthew 18:20; 28:20)
• Jehovah’s nature does not change. (Malachi 3:6) Jesus’ nature does not change. (Hebrews 13:8)3.
• Jehovah is the only God we are to “serve.”
(2 Kings 17:35) Jesus is to be served. (Col. 3:24)
• Jehovah is the only God to be “worshipped.” (Exodus 34:14) Jesus receives the same honor and “worship” that the Father receives. (John 5:23; Revelation 5:11-14 compare with Rev. 4:10-11)4. No angel can receive “worship.” (Revelation 22:8-9)
• Jehovah the Lord is to be set apart as holy. (Isaiah 8:12b-13) Jesus as Jehovah is to be set apart as holy. (1 Peter 3:14b-15a)5.
• Jehovah’s glory is not to be given to another.
(Isaiah 42:8) Jesus shares Jehovah’s glory. (Jn. 17:5)
• God’s name is Jehovah (or Yahweh--YHWH). (Isaiah 42:8) Jesus has Jehovah’s name. (John 17:11; John 16:14-15)
• Jehovah is the only God to be mentioned in prayer. (Exodus 23:13) Christians are to pray to Jesus.6.
(John 14:14)
• Calling upon Jehovah (Joel 2:32) is the same as calling upon Jesus. (Acts 2:21; Romans 10:9-13)7.
• Jehovah “the true God” is called “eternal life.”
(1 John 5:20) Jesus is called “the eternal life.”
(1 John 1:2)
• Jehovah is the “mighty God.” (Jeremiah 32:17-18; Isaiah 10:20-21) Jesus is the “mighty God”
(Isaiah 9:6) who is “Almighty.” (Revelation 1:7-8)8. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. (1 Timothy 1:17; Isaiah 44:8)
• Jehovah is an “everlasting light.” (Psalm 27:1; Isaiah 60:19-20) Jesus is the light of men and the everlasting light of the future city. (John 1:4-9; Revelation 21:23)
• Jehovah is “the first and the last.” (Isaiah 44:6; 48:12) Jesus is the “first and the last.”
(Revelation 1:17-18; 22:12-13, 20)
• Jehovah is the “Alpha and the Omega.” (Revelation 1:8; Revelation 21:6-7) Jesus is the “Alpha and the Omega.” (Revelation 22:12-13, 20)
• Jehovah’s title is “the Holy One.” (Isaiah 47:4) Jesus is “the Holy One.” (Acts 3:14; John 6:69)
• Jehovah is the “stumbling stone” of Israel.
(Isaiah 8:13-15) Jesus is the “stumbling stone” of Israel. (1 Peter 2:6-8)
• John the Baptist was to prepare the way for Jehovah. (Isaiah 40:3) The Jehovah who came was Jesus.
(Mark 1:1-4; John 1:6-7, 23)
• Jehovah is the one who was “pierced.” (Zechariah 12:10)9. Jesus is the pierced Jehovah. (John 19:34; Revelation 1:7-8)
• The Jehovah who was sold for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:13) is Jesus. (Matthew 27:2-6)
• Jehovah is Lord of the elements. (Psalm 89:8-9) Jesus is Lord of the elements. (Matthew 8:26-27; John 2:7-9)
• Jehovah is the great Judge who gives life to whom he wishes and who renders to each man “according” to his “deeds.” (Psalm 98:9; Deuteronomy 32:39; Jeremiah 17:9-10) Jesus is the only judge who gives life to whom he wishes and renders to each man “according” to his “deeds.” (John 5:21-22; Revelation 2:18, 23)
• Jehovah is the only one who can forgive sins. (Mark 2:7; Daniel 9:9) Jesus forgives sins. (Mark 2:10-11; Luke 24:46-47)
• Jehovah is the great “shepherd” who leads his people to “the spring of the water of life.” (Psalm 23:1-2; Revelation 21:6-7) Jesus as the “shepherd” of His people, leads them “to springs of the water of life.” (John 10:11-18; Revelation 7:17) THERE IS ONLY ONE SHEPHERD --John 10:16.
• Jehovah is “Lord of Lords.” (Deuteronomy 10:17) Jesus is “Lord of Lords.” (Revelation 17:14; 19:16) The Father is Lord of all. (Matthew 11:25;
Acts 17:24) Jesus is “Lord of all.” (Acts 10:36) THERE IS ONLY ONE LORD. (Jude 4)
• Jehovah is the Savior. (Isaiah 45:21-22) Jesus is the Savior. (Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1) THERE IS ONLY ONE SAVIOR. (Isaiah 43:11)
• Jehovah created the universe. (Psalm 102:25-27) Jesus created the universe. (John 1:3; Colossians 1:15-19;10. Hebrews 1:10-12).11. THERE IS ONLY ONE CREATOR. (Isaiah 44:24)
• Isaiah saw Jehovah. (Isaiah 6:1-5) The Jehovah that Isaiah saw was Jesus. (John 12:41)

Creator: John 1:3 (Jesus); Isa 40:28 (YHWH)
Savior: John 4:42 (Jesus); Isa 45:22; 43:11 (YHWH)
Raise the dead: John 5:21 (Jesus); I Sam 2:6 (YHWH)
Judge: John 5:27; Matt 25:31-46 (Jesus); Joel 3:12 (YHWH)
Light: John 8:12 (Jesus); Isa 60:19-20 (YHWH)
"I AM": John 8:58; 18:5,6 (Jesus); Ex 3:14 (YHWH)
Shepherd: John 10:11 (Jesus); Ps 23:1 (YHWH)
Glory of God: John 17:1,5 (Jesus); Isa 42:8; 48:11 (YHWH)
First and last: Rev 1:17; 2:8 (Jesus); Isa 41:4; 44:6 (YHWH)
Redeemer: Rev 5:9 (Jesus); Hosea 13:14 (YHWH)
Bridegroom: Rev 21:2; Matt 25:1ff (Jesus); Isa 62:5; Hosea 2:16 (YHWH)
Rock: I Cor 10:4 (Jesus); Ps 18:2 (YHWH)
Forgiver of sins: Mark 2:7,10; Jer 31:34 (YHWH)
Worshiped by angels: Heb 1:6 (Jesus); Ps 148:2 (YHWH)
Addressed in prayer: Acts 7:59 (Jesus); throughout Hebrew Scriptures (YHWH)
Creator of angels: Col 1:16 (Jesus); Ps 148:5 (YHWH)
Confessed as Lord: Phil 2:11 (Jesus); Isa 45:23 (YHWH)
Because of who Jesus is (i.e., YHWH) then we are to give Him the proper respect and worship He deserves.

Edited by moderator Wednesday, December 9, 2009 11:16:44 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Just added Ken's quote to the top to add some instant context lol