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Offline Yada  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, August 5, 2008 2:04:09 PM(UTC)
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The following is an exchange between "ZS" and Yada:

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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:03 PM, "ZS" wrote:

1-what have u got against rabbinical judaism? what have they done 2 u?
2-if 'yeshua's coming was supposedly an expression of 'love' for ppl, why have millions of ppl, jews, american indians etc died for refusing to believe that Gd came down in a human suit?

the jews already believe that gd loves his creation. thats why he had us created in the first place.

he gave us his teaching -the torah, to make his will known to us.

he had exhorted us to avoid worshiping men and idols.
why would he suddenly decide to appear as a human man.

and if yeshua = gd, does it mean that gd let himself be killed?
of course, gd is omnipresent, so such an act would be meaningless.

unfortunatelly we cannot be 'purified' by death of one individual.
we have to toil by the merit of our actions.

HE KNEW THT HE GAVE THE COMMANDMENTS TO AN IMPERFECT BEINGS. THATS WHY WE NEED THE LAWS, TO SHOW US THE WAY.
EVERY MAN WHO WANTS TO DO GD'S WILL WANTS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO- PRACTICALLY.

it is not enuff to think pretty thoughts and sing songs- we have to act as good people. but what means 'good' how can we know what to do?
what to waer, what to eat, how to eat, what seasons to observe to serve gd the best way possible.

how can u say we dont need the law?

ABOUT YOUR IDEA OF BIBLE CREATION AND SCIENCE, READ A BOOK BY AN ORTHODOX JEWISH SCIENTIST -GENESIS AND THE BIG BANG' BY G. SCHROEDER


Yada's response:


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Z,

I have a suggestion: before you criticize someone for what they have written, read what they have written. Your first question is answered repeatedly throughout the seven volumes. The answer happens to be identical to my argument, and Yahuweh's, against Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, Protestantism, Mormonism, and Islam: corruption and counterfeit.

The answer to your second question is that it is immaterial. Only fools confuse the message with the messenger.

Before I address your third question, the Messiyah's name is Yahushua. Yeshu and Yeshua are rabbinic corruptions specifically designed to remove Yah's name from people's hearts and minds and to separate the Messiyah from Yah.

The Messiyah's purpose, plan, and name are consistently and unambiguously presented in the Torah, Prophets, and Psalms. If you don't understand His purpose, if you don't appreciate His plan, if you don't know His name, I encourage you to look to the Torah, Prophets, and Psalms for the answers. Such is the purpose, the sole source and reason, for Yada Yahweh. It was therefore written for you.

The answer to your third question, is: Yahuweh gave man the freedom to choose. We usually choose poorly (as a direct result of religious indoctrination) which is why man continues to oppress and kill his fellow man. The problem isn't with God, but instead with man.

As for Jews, actually Yahuwdym (meaning related to Yah), the Torah is clear, even blunt, about the consequence of being faithful within the Covenant relationship, and rejecting it by being unfaithful. God promised earthly blessings if the Covenant was kept (defined as walking, talking, and being honest with Yah). He also warned that there would be a consequence of breaking the Covenant. His prediction, like all of His prophecies, was correct.

While I am an outspoken opponent of Catholicism, Islam, and Secular Humanism (manifest in communism and fascism), as is Yah, according to God, the Chosen People have only themselves, and their leaders, to blame for their past and current plight. The American Indians, however, have Catholicism and greed to blame.

Fortunately, that is not the end of the story--at least for Jews. We are within twenty years of a great revival among Yahuwdym and with it a migration away from rabbinical and secular teaching to a reliance on Yahuweh. Unfortunately, the next 25 years will be the worst in human history. Therefore, Yada Yahweh exists as a beacon along the way--pointing Jews toward Yahuweh, to His eternal truth, plan, family, and home.

The important truth behind your question is: Yahuweh is an advocate of freewill and justice. As an advocate of freewill, we are all afforded the opportunity to get to know Yahuweh, to trust and rely upon Him, or to ignore Him, reject Him, work against Him, or simply wallow around in one of a thousand man made religious schemes--fooling ourselves, but not Him. As an advocate of justice, Yahuweh has established a system whereby every soul receives what they have chosen: camping out with Him, eternally separated from Him, or as is the case for most, having death be the end of life.

The vast preponderance of Yada Yahweh is devoted to God's nature, purpose, and plan by way of an amplified translation and commentary on the Torah, Prophets, and Psalms. Therefore, by making your first and second statements, as if they were "news," demonstrates that you didn't read the book. And while it is your choice to read it, ignore it, or reject it, it's foolish to criticize things you haven't bothered to understand. For example, I invested thousands of hours studying the oldest Islamic texts before I wrote Prophet of Doom.

To answer your fourth question: Yahushua is simply Yah diminished to human form. Yah doesn't want us to worship His human manifestation, or Him for that matter. Therefore, there is no conflict between Yahushua and the second commandment. A conflict only arises in human religions where crosses and crucifixes become graven images and where people are errantly taught to worship "Jesus Christ." These teachings, however, are in direct opposition to Yah's Word.

Your fifth question is one of my favorites. It points out one of the principle flaws of Christianity. If God is eternal, God cannot die. I devoted an entire volume to this question because Yahuweh devoted vast sections of the Torah, Prophets, and Psalms to answering it. His answer is wonderful and stunningly brilliant. It is about God being Spirit, but having a soul (as well as a temporary body) for this particular purpose--the redemption of mankind.

So, if you want to know God's response to your question, read the Salvation volume of Yada Yahweh. Here is the link: http://yadayahweh.com/Yada_Yahweh_Salvation.YHWH. There are eight chapters, exclusively based upon the Tanak in this volume. Based upon your questions and statements, reading it would be a wonderful investment of your time.

By making the statement "unfortunately we cannot be 'purified' by death of one individual, we have to toil by the merit of our actions," you have demonstrated that you don't appreciate the difference between death and separation, and that you prefer man's religious conclusions to Yah's plan. Yahuweh's seven step plan of salvation is laid out in His seven Miqra'ey. I encourage you to read the volume dedicated to the purpose behind the Called Out Appointments with God. Here is that link:http://yadayahweh.com/Yada_Yahweh_Called-Out_Assemblies.YHWH.

The Torah is designed to "show us the way." The fact that most people miss it is the reason I'm so anti-religious. Rabbis, for example, have turned Yah's instructions in this regard into religious obligations devoid of their intended meaning. My friend Ken Power has written The Owner's Manuel on this specific subject, explaining how Maimonides completely missed the point. Here is the link to that book: http://theownersmanual.net/.

Finally, your last question and statement prove my initial point. You didn't read before you ranted. Rather than say that "we don't need the torah/law," I say that it is absolutely essential to knowing God and recognizing the path He provided to Him. And I specifically reference Gerald Schroeder, and specifically his second book, The Science of God, in the chapter devoted to the Big Bang and Genesis time. I even credit him with being the first to apply relativity to God's timeline.

Z, not only didn't you bother to read and understand what Yada Yahweh has to say before you criticized it, you haven't bothered to understand what God has to say before parroting rabbinical conclusions. That is not a wise course of action.

So now Z, you have a choice--one with a consequence. My hope is that you read the book and that you come to know Yahuweh and come to appreciate and rely upon His plan. Let me know if you do.

Yada
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Offline Noach  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 5, 2008 8:45:41 PM(UTC)
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If you can convince people that the letter "o" is not allowed between the letters "g" and "d", you can probably convince them of just about anything.

Offline Theophilus  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 6, 2008 5:13:18 AM(UTC)
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Well said Noach. I sometimes wonder if people write to criticize what they've clearly not read in order to get the shorter version in an e-mail reply as a lazy substitute to making the effort to understand the material on their own first.

I also wonder if Yada or KP recieves these sort of complaints from people who actually have read through the work which they're upset by?
Offline Yada  
#4 Posted : Friday, August 8, 2008 1:27:55 AM(UTC)
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The "conversation" continues:

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On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:06 PM, ZS wrote:

Yada, i'm reading your stuff, its too much...
u go on and on against everyone, kabbalists and communists in the same sentence. at least u got me laughing.

look, according to our tradition in which we believe(we- meaning orthodox jews, followers of the rabbis who u sooo despise), there was a revelation on mount sinai, while the jewish nation stood at the feet of the mountain. ok, are we together so far?

now, we have the torah, which is our instruction and 'user's manual'
but it is pretty criptic in a number of places. so it needs explaining and commentaries.
also it needs RULES ABOUT HOW TO APPLY IT.

like the famous 'eye 4 an eye'
when exactly do we do it, do we need witnesses, if yes, how many, what if their testimony differs so on.
so we agree that there are laws.

i mean, we all need SOME GUIDELINES, NO?

and... thats basically it, to me.
I know there will be redemption, for which i pray. i know at some point there will be a righteous messiah, who will return ppl's hearts to Gd.
but that is the future. our job is to be good now, pray to Gd for help and mercy etc.

now, u are so adamant that Gd came down in human form at some point and then died on across for us.
now, as a person who is trying to live a life of righteousness as much as i 'm able, what would u have me do about it?
should i STOP doing mitzvos? I believe that Gd gave us the torah FOR EVER. how is jesus' presence changing anything for me?

i'm still me, i dont know, if we are talking about grace (whatever that means) maybe i can interest u in some nigunim of chasidic masters? ;-)
respectfully,

-Z


Yada's response:

Quote:
Z,

My job is to expose and condemn that which is false, and witness to that which is true. I have done the first part of that for you and have pointed you in the right direction. I am not called to rewrite the book to answer your charges in the order you have presented them, because I've already addressed each of these in the order Yahweh dealt with them.

I understand rabbinic Judaism, and I speak of it's origins, purpose, and erroneous teachings. The simple truth is that without a temple, the Torah cannot be followed so, unless God has changed His plan, there is more to the Torah than the rabbis claim. I expose what that is in YY. But it isn't going to help you because the sad truth is that like the followers of every other religion, you have been duped. You see the world from the perspective of the rabbis, and it precludes an open mind.

The reason that I attack religious schemes like Islam, Christianity, Judaism and Qaballah, Mormonism, and Socialist Secular Humanism, is because they all lead souls away from Yahweh. In the end, it is all a matter of who are you going to trust: men or God? Rabbinic Judaism, like Catholicism, Islam, and Mormonism, is in constant conflict with the Scriptures upon which it is based and upon with it claims its authority. As such, it is rationally impossible for rabbinic Judaism to be true. The same can be said of Islam, Catholicism, and Mormonism.

So, you are either unaware of the conflicts, or you are unwilling our unable to be logical regarding them. Yada Yahweh will solve the first issue, but not the second. The case Yahweh makes against Judaism (and Catholicism) in the prophetic passages cited in Yada Yahweh, is vastly superior to the case I made against Islam using its scriptures in Prophet of Doom. You were able to deal with one, but not the other. Ask yourself why.

So Z, you can either read the book, and ponder what you have read, or it's goodbye. I pray that you read more and write less.

Yada
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Offline Yada  
#5 Posted : Friday, August 8, 2008 1:30:31 AM(UTC)
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Quote:
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:29 AM, ZS wrote:

ok, fair enuff. just one question- from your point of view- who was jesus?


Yada's response:

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Z,

There is an entire volume of Yada Yahweh based upon the Torah, Prophets, and Psalms which explains the precise nature and purpose of Yahushua ("Jesus" is a 17th century manmade name without any Scriptural basis). I gave you the direct link to the fourth volume in my first reply. It is: (http://yadayahweh.com/Yada_Yahweh_Salvation.YHWH). It's a shame you didn't read it. The timeline presented in the opening chapter is riveting. And what follows is spiritually stunning. It's vastly superior to any religion.

Since the eight Salvation chapters present Yahweh's answer to your question, I'll leave you with this: If Yahushua was not the Messiyah, Yahweh's Scripture is untrustwory, and there never will be a Messiyah. The prophecies are now impossible to fulfill. If Maimonides was right, God was wrong. (But if God was wrong, so was Maimonides, meaning rabbinic Judaism loses either way. Religion is the only opiate powerful enough to keep you from recognizing this simple logic.)

I'll also share this: The world is going to become increasingly hostile toward Israel and Jews. America as we know it will be destroyed. Jews will not be responsible, but they will be blamed. We are within 20 years of entering the week of tribulation (7 years) discussed in Daniel. Muslims, under the Magog Federation, will collectively attack Israel, and this will start WWIII. Billions will die. Yahuweh will return on Yowm Kippurym, precisely forty Yowbel after His Passover sacrifice. You don't have much time. I hope you become one of the renewed and revived Yahuwdym spiritually and that you come to enjoy the Millennial Sabbath which will begin on Tabernacles in 2033.

Yahweh has provided a path to get you there...

Yada
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