This is a continuation of the initial exchange between - R - (advocating the RCC) and Yada. One sentence in the closing from Yada really caught my eye:
To quote
Quote:But, and this is a hell of a but, for those who openly advocate a plan of salvation which is inconsistent with Yahweh’s Word, the Abyss will be their eternal residence. Be careful, you are crossing that line and there is a fate worse than death.
Here is the blended exchange, which took place on July 3, 2007.
- R -, Yada: In my reply to your initial letter to me, I told you where to look for the truth and that if you chose not to avail yourself of that opportunity that you would be without excuse. I concluded my reply with a confession, predicting that you were too indoctrinated to benefit from the answers I labored to provide on your behalf. I was right.
Before I move on and address this very weak rebuttal to our previous correspondence, it’s important for those reading this to know that you are no ordinary, misguided victim of Roman Catholicism. You are an apologist for the Church. You wrote me initially promoting her most damning lies. I am therefore rebuking you because you deserve it, not because you’ll benefit from it.
That said, let’s begin with your first question:
R: Messiyah Yahushua, Yahuchannan/John, Yahuwdym......What on earth is this?Yada: Knowledge on my part and lack of it on yours. You obviously have no understanding of transliteration or of the languages in which Scripture was revealed. And that’s a serious problem for you since you are advocating a religion from a position of ignorance (lacking knowledge).
Messiyah is a title and thus can be translated or transliterated. There is no reasonable basis for changing it to “Christ.” Translated, it means “Anointed Implement of Yah.” Yahweh is God’s name. The Messiyah was the human manifestation of Yahweh, set apart from Him, and diminished to serve us.
Yahushua is the Savior’s name. It is His only name. It is the name Yahweh chose to represent Himself. Yahushua means “Yah Saves.” This name defines who Yahushua is and His purpose. Jesus has not meaning. It isn’t accurate. It was first conceived by religious clerics in the 17th century CE.
Yahuchannan is the most accurate transliteration of the name of the person who wrote the book of John and Revelation. It is also the name of the person we errantly call “John the Baptist.” It means “Yah is Merciful or Gracious.”
When one goes about the task of communicating thoughts recorded in one language into another, names must always be transliterated and words translated. Either is acceptable for titles. For example, Mr. Bush’s name is transliterated “Bush” in every language, just as Osama bin Ladin’s Arabic name is rendered in English letters to produce the same sounds. Allah is the Arabic name for the Islamic god and a proper transliteration of his name from Arabic into English. By way of example from an ancient language, all of the names Homer cited in the Iliad have always been transliterated into other languages and not changed.
Yahuwdym means “Belongs to and Related to Yah.” All who are adopted into Yahweh’s family are Yahuwdym. Religious men have errantly changed Yahuwdah and Yahuwdym to Judah and Jews, but there was no J sound in Hebrew or Greek. And the altered version has no meaning.
These names and titles were chosen by Yahweh. The fact that you are unfamiliar with them is part of the curse of the Roman Catholic Church. They are responsible for you not knowing and for you being misled.
R: Seems you have undertaken a personal interpretation of some old parchment scrolls?Yada: You just impugned Yahweh’s oldest Scriptural manuscripts, calling them “some old parchment scrolls,” as if they were less authoritative than a modern day church edict. Are you unaware that the Roman Catholic Church bases its claims of authority on Yahweh’s Word—of which these parchments are the most representative? Are you unaware that the oldest manuscripts of the Old Covenant are contained in the Dead Sea Scroll collection, and that they are in the original language and predate the Latin Vulgate by 600 years? Are you aware that these scrolls expose Masorete copyedits of Scripture? Are you aware that 70 pre-Constantine manuscripts of the Renewed Covenant covering every book from Matthew to Revelation from the first, second, and third century CE have been discovered and that they expose Catholic copyedits of Scripture?
Are you unaware of the difference between translation and interpretation? Or perhaps this is a better question: what do you know? All you are doing here is exposing the reason the Roman Catholic Church fooled you into believing that they were the source of salvation.
R: I have heard of the "sola scriptura" advocates who say, "We believe in the Bible alone and the Bible in its entirety as the sole rule of faith for the Christian!" But you are totally different; you hold the Bible suspect, so you bypass it and head straight for ancient writings, so that you can do your own personal, and therefore subjective, interpretation.Yada: Yahweh says that there are only two sources of revelation which can be trusted, His Word and His Spirit. You, however, would prefer to alter and ignore the first, misidentify the second, and rely on a new, unauthorized human agency.
And while that’s a problem, there is a bigger issue with the “sola scriptura” argument. If you were informed and rational you’d realize that the Roman Catholic position is unsupportable because its edicts routinely conflict with Scripture. And in most places in which Rome differs from Yahweh, Rome’s position reflects Satan’s and Babylon’s. It is why Yahshua said that the assembly represented by Catholicism was “the seat of Satan, married to Ba’al, and dead.”
Digging deeper into your reply, “Bible” is the name of a pagan sungoddess, so that is not the term Yahweh chose for His Word. And it’s true, more recent manuscripts like the Vulgate, Masoretic, and Textus Receptus and translations like the Vulgate, KJV, NKJV, ASB, NASB, IV, NIV, are highly suspect at best and errant at worst. But therein is the value of what you called “some old parchment scrolls.” Yet, you don’t understand the correlation, and lack thereof, between what you call “the Bible,” and “ancient writings.”
As a result, you see the world upside down and backwards. The oldest manuscripts of Scripture are the least subjective, the most objective, the least interpretive, and the most accurate. It is by altering the text to suit their agenda that the Catholic Church has beguiled so many like you into trusting them.
R: So, are we talking about the same scripture? The things you write appear to come from scripture that exists only in your own misguided imagination. And you are obviously proud of your confounding terminology. Yada: Rather than ask this question, do some research. You have a mind, use it—or have you discarded it for the sake of your religion? In Hosea, Yahweh said: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” He was speaking to you.
If you aren’t aware of whether Yahweh’s Scripture which I translated for you, is the “same scripture” as you cited, you have a problem. If you think the 70 first, second, and third century CE manuscripts documenting every Renewed Covenant book and the 200 manuscripts from Dead Sea Scrolls covering all but one book, “exists only in my own misguided imagination,” you are clearly misguided. But it begs the question: Why advocate for a religion when you know so little about its basis?
Speaking of “terminology,” those I’ve communicated with you are Yahweh’s selections. Since they are accurate, and true to the source, you are calling God “confounding” by condemning them. They are only confusing to you because you have been confused. The Roman Catholic Church purposefully altered Yahweh’s terminology to confuse you into trusting them. And they prevailed.
That said, I am aware that Yahweh’s terminology is foreign to the vast majority of people and comes as a shock to them. It’s hard to believe that so many have covered up the truth for so long. But to continue to cover up the truth just so that people feel comfortable would be a terrible crime.
R: What were the literary levels in Europe before the15 century? Yada: The more powerful the Roman Catholic Church became, the worse the people’s fate, and the less that was known about Yahweh’s Word. The RCC made owning a bible a criminal offense. The RCC was unwilling to communicate God’s Word in a common language people understood. The reason Europe plunged into darkness for so long was due to the RCC. The reason Europe finally emerged from darkness was because men like John Wycliffe risked their lives to provide copies of the Word in the common tongue. It led to the Reformation and Renaissance. In all of human history, it is hard to find any organization which rivals the Catholic Church in deceit and destructiveness.
R: Were people literary enough to read and understand local languages let alone Hebrew, Latin and Greek?Yada: This argument is without basis. And the more that it is explored, the worse the Catholic Church appears. The RCC purposefully sought to demean the original Hebrew and Greek MSS of Scripture so as to elevate the status of its Latin Vulgate translation. As a result, the RCC was free to corrupt Yahweh’s Word to suit themselves for one thousand years. It wasn’t until after the RCC lost control of Europe that scholars slowly attempted to reverse course and return to God’s Word as it was originally inspired. It is from that basis, that common translations have emerged.
To fully understand what God revealed, one has to study the oldest manuscripts in their original language and then provide an amplified translation into the common language of the day. In this regard, Latin and the Vulgate have no value. And Hebrew and Greek don’t have to be known by everyone so long as someone translates them accurately. No organization has been a bigger foe of this worthy pursuit, longer, than the RCC.
R: Did every one have access to "prophetic Scripture, translated and amplified from the oldest manuscripts"?Yada: Once again, you are shooting yourself and your religion in the head. The RCC did everything in its power to hide Yahweh’s Word and to keep it from the masses. They had access to it, but hid it in vaults to promote its agenda. Now, since the RCC has lost control, the public has access to “prophetic Scripture, translated and amplified from the oldest manuscripts.” What they do with this access is what’s important. You, for example, have elected to demean it.
R: What happens to the poor souls that lived before the advent of the printing press that made possible the wide distribution of the Bible?Yada: The fate of the deceived souls who were forced by torture and death to rely on the Roman Catholic Church has already been determined. Death was the end of life for them. There is nothing more. They died separated from Yahweh. Such is the fate of billions of souls beguiled in the name of the Whore of Babylon. It is why most every pope will spend their eternity with Satan in the Abyss. They not only hid Yahweh’s truth, His nature, His plan and His way from the people, they altered it, creating a counterfeit to suit their agenda.
Yahweh communicated the path to Him. If we accept His terms, follow His way, and rely on Him our eternal fate we will live forever in God’s family. If we trust another, different path, according to God, we will die separated from Him.
R: What happens to the greatest majority that had no access to the Bible so that they can do their own personal interepretation?Yada: As you know, Yahweh revealed His plan of salvation. He said that there was only one way to Him. Therefore, according to His Word, those who have relied on the Church, or any religion for that matter, or even on themselves, will find death to be the end of life. They won’t go to hell, but they won’t go to heaven either. They did not know Yahweh and Yahweh did not know them. According to Yahweh’s Word, for the greatest majority of people there is no life after death. Such is the consequence of not knowing. Such is the legacy of Roman Catholicism.
But, and this is a hell of a but, for those who openly advocate a plan of salvation which is inconsistent with Yahweh’s Word, the Abyss will be their eternal residence.
Be careful, you are crossing that line and there is a fate worse than death.
-Yada