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Offline jericsmith  
#1 Posted : Saturday, May 21, 2022 2:22:32 AM(UTC)
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In Micah 4:2, the implication of Yehowsha as the future ruler of Israel is quite clear. Am I missing something?
Offline MadDog  
#2 Posted : Monday, May 23, 2022 5:45:41 PM(UTC)
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The "implication" is not "quite clear" because Yahowshua's name is never mentioned. I see you joined this group in 2013 and there has been more insights since then about who the true "ruler" would be. There have been additional YadaYah books on why Dowd is the Messiah and not Yahowshua. For starters please read.


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Offline chrud  
#3 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2022 3:57:40 PM(UTC)
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Yes, you seem to be missing a lot. First off, I assume you are talking about Micah 5:2, not 4:2. At least read the entirety of 5:2... It tells you that the ruler of Israel is from Bethlehem, a long time ago (ancient times). Micah lived before Yahowshah, so a long time before Micah does not fit Yahowshah. But Dowd came from Bethlehem a long time ago, roughly 12 kings before Micah.
Offline Mike  
#4 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2022 7:34:40 PM(UTC)
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The word typically translated as "ruler" has the same spelling as "proverb".

H4912
משׁל
mâshâl
BDB Definition:
1) proverb, parable
1a) proverb, proverbial saying, aphorism
1b) byword
1c) similitude, parable
1d) poem
1e) sentences of ethical wisdom, ethical maxims
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: apparently from H4910 in some original sense of superiority in mental action
Same Word by TWOT Number: 1258a

Form "Coming Home Volume 2".

One such example is found in Mykayah | Micah. It describes someone who will come forth from Bethlehem. Christians claim it must be ‘Jesus,’ but I don’t agree. What do you think?

“Now, at this time (‘atah – at this point in the narration, and subject to this sequence of events) band together (gadad – gather here as a substantial group of individuals who are cut into the relationship), oh daughters and settlements (bath – either women who are related or environs, could also represent the Beryth as the feminine manifestation of the Spirit’s Family) of those willing to fight to stop the advancement of others (gaduwd – of those prepared for battle who are arranged in troops and divisions serving as a wall to deter entry).
We will be besieged (matsowr sym ‘al ‘anahnuw – we will be confined as a siege is set in place against us). With a rod and weapons of war, people associated by race,
culture, or geography (shebet – nations and large subdivisions of people, in concert with their leaders) will smite (nakah – will strike, seeking to afflict, maim, destroy, and kill by wounding) the Decisionmaker and Judge (‘eth shaphat – the one who exercises good judgment, correctly deciding right from wrong through observing the Towrah) of Yisra’el (Yisra’el – Individuals who Engage and Endure with God) on the jaw (‘al ha lachy – on the mouth, teeth, and cheek). (Mykayah / Who Is Like Yah / Micah 5:1)

And you (wa ‘atah), Beyth Lechem | Bethlehem (Beyth Lechem – House and Home of Bread, Family and Household of Grain, transliterated Bethlehem (as an interesting aside, lechem can also be transliterated lacham, and means to engage in a struggle, to fight, and to battle)), ‘Ephrath | Fruitful (‘Ephrath – Branching Off and Bearing Fruit) existing as (la hayah – on behalf of and to exist with), the younger sibling among (ba tsa’yr – the youngest and least significant) the thousands (‘eleph) of Yahuwdah (Yahuwdah – Beloved of Yah and Related to Yah), from you to approach Me (min ‘atah la ‘any – out of you on My behalf) one shall come forth (yatsa’ – one shall be brought out (third person masculine singular in the qal imperfect)) to be (la hayah – approaching to exist as) the one who writes proverbs and governs (mashal – the source of wisdom who leads by composing easily-remembered lyrics filled with symbolism, a ruler with authority and dominion) in Yisra’el (ba Yisra’el – with those who engage and endure with God), whose beginning (mowtsa’ah huw’ – whose origin and his coming forth) is from antiquity (min qedem – from long ago because he existed a long time ago in the past), from ancient days (min yowmym ‘owlam – from a long time ago, and what would seem like an eternity of days).” (Mykayah / Who Is Like Yah / Micah 5:2)
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