Jeremiah 23 : 27


25 “I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy lies in My name, saying, ‘I have dreamed, I have dreamed!’ 26 How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Indeed they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart, 27 who try to make My people forget My name by their dreams which everyone tells his neighbor, as their fathers forgot My name for Baal.

Vic108,  I think there is another verse also. I'll have to look for it.

One more thought vic108,

If you tell someone to look at Hosea 2:16 and they look in a King James Bible it will read:

Hos 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.

So unless they are willing to scratch beneath the surface and look at the definitions of the Hebrew words they will never understand that LORD should be Yahowah, Ishi should be my husband or my individual, and Baali should be my Lord

Hos 2:16 And it shall beH1961 at thatH1931 day,H3117 saithH5002 the LORD,H3068 that thou shalt callH7121 me Ishi;H376 and shalt callH7121 me noH3808 moreH5750 Baali.H1180

H3068
יהוה
yehôvâh
BDB Definition:
Jehovah = “the existing One”
1) the proper name of the one true God
1a) unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of H136
Part of Speech: noun proper deity

Shalom

Thank you, everybody...

what prompted me to mention all this to her was her statement the other day that she was using Strong's:

"Studying the Word with Dr Strong this morning:) ~ Lord I will trust in Thee.~ trust OT:982
batach (baw-takh'); a primitive root; properly, to hie for refuge [but not so precipitately as OT:2620]; figuratively, to trust, be confident or sure:
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc."

So, I posted (thanks to y'all):

Jeremiah 23 : 27
“I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy lies in My name, saying, ‘I have dreamed, I have dreamed!’
How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Indeed they are prophets of the deceit of their
own heart, who try to make My people forget My name by their dreams which everyone tells his neighbor, as their
fathers forgot My name for Baal."

No matter how Christians try to sugar coat "Lord", read and understand that Yahowah is His Name. Call Him that!
He never once introduced Himself as "Lord", not ever. It is a title He never claimed for Himself, never asked for,
never initiated. Why should you or anyone else be asked to "prove" He doesn't want to be called something He
never asked to be called? When Moseh asked in Exodus 3:13 "And Moseh said to Elohim, "See when I come to
the children of Yisra'el and say to them, The Elohim of your fathers has sent me to you, and they say to me,
"What is His Name? what shall I say to them?"

Isaiah 42:8
"I am Yahowah, that is My Name, and My esteem I do not give to another, nor My praise to idols"
And Elohim said to Mosheh, "I am that which I am". And He said, Thus you shall say to the children
of Yisra'el, "I am has sent me to you. And Elohim said FURTHER to Mosheh, Thus you are to say to
the children of Yisra'el, Yahowah Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Yitsha,
and the Elohim of Ya'aqob has sent me to you. This is My Name forever, and this is My remembrance to all generations."

It's Baal that wants to LORD over. God gave us free will to enter into a family relationship with Him. No parent
wants to LORD over their child. Understanding the original Hebrew is paramount to knowing Yahowah!

Hos 2:16 “And it shall be, in that day,” declares יהוה, “that you call Me ‘My Husband,’ and no longer call Me ‘My Baʽal. (My Lord)’

I thought maybe she'd like to dig deep but she replied:

"Dear Vic,

HE also calls Himself “adonay” in passages like: Ezek 13:9
And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine
lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be
written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the
land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
The root of that word literally means ,” Lord Master Owner.”

"Jesus said why do you call Me Lord Lord and do not so what I say.
He longs for sons who will lovingly choose to make Him Lord.
He longs for us to yeild lovingly to His Lordship.
Not to force us to follow Him...but for us to willingly follow and obey..."


I replied:
There are two reasons that these Divine Placeholders were universally presented
on every codex written by Yahowsha‘s Disciples dating to the first- through third-century.
Names like Yahowah and Yahowsha‘ cannot be transliterated using the Greek alphabet.
And God‘s titles are meaningful in the original language— wherethe words themselves convey important instructions

She replied:
"He is so amazing !He never forces Himself...He lovingly offers an invitation ....
It's up to us to choose...to make Him The Lord over us!
As for me and my house~ we will worship~ we will follow~ we will bow down~ we will love and adore Him forever!"


So, that was my first attempt to talk with an old family friend (and now, married to a Pastor) about Yahowah.
After that last statement of hers, I figured it's best left for the pros. Little steps for little understanding...

well, she did send me a message this time..... sounds like she may be open to dialog.
Besides Strongs, what other tools do you use - for understanding the Hebrew?

"Just a note to say you are loved like a brother:)
Been pondering you r posts and praying to hear your heart in it...
May we have an amiable discourse? I was just wondering this: if the
disciples of God wrote that He called Himself I Am...and they caled him Lord...
why is it that you object to acknowledging Him as Lord? Just wondering...
He is not a dictatorial evil God in Christianity ...but a loving servant who is intrinsically undenyably Lord...
Just some thoughts
Love you Bro"

^ Oops grabbed the wrong strongs number...but it too is Ba'al (Lord).
H1168
בּעל
ba‛al
BDB Definition:
Baal = “lord”
1) supreme male divinity of the Phoenicians or Canaanites (noun proper masculine)
2) a Reubenite (noun proper masculine)
3) the son of Jehiel and grandfather of Saul (noun proper masculine)
4) a town of Simeon, probably identical to Baalath-beer (noun proper locative)
Part of Speech: see above in Definition
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: the same as H1167

Although Luke is 2nd hand hearsay, since xtians put so much stock in the NT:

Luk 19:37 And as He was coming near, already at the descent of the Mount of Olives, the entire crowd of the taught ones began, to praise Elohim, rejoicing with a loud voice for all the miracles they had seen,
Luk 19:38 saying, “ ‘Blessed is the Sovereign who is coming in the Name of יהוה!’ Peace in heaven and esteem in the highest!”
Luk 19:39 And some of the Pharisees from the crowd, said to Him, “Teacher, rebuke Your taught ones.”
Luk 19:40 But He answering, said to them, “I say to you that if these shall be silent, the stones would cry out.”

Yahowsha earlier on avoided the death sentence from saying Father's name, like in the case of the rich young rulers asking him about eternal life...do what Mosheh said...and then starts with example "honor your father and mother"...For If he would have accurately quoted any of the previous, he would have had to say Yahowah...even 3 times about honoring the sabbath.

As others have pointed out, below is another example. Makes one ask, why would Yahowsha have to reveal the Father's name to his 12, a group of Yahudim, as if they had never heard it?

Joh 17:24 “Father, I desire that those whom You have given Me, might be with Me where I am, so that they see My esteem which You have given Me, because You loved Me before the foundation of the world.
Joh 17:25 “O righteous Father, indeed the world did not know You, but I knew You, and these knew that You sent Me.
Joh 17:26 “And I have made Your Name known to them, and shall make it known,1 so that the love with which You loved Me might be in them, and I in them.”

Thank you for your help!

I also asked a preacher at work if he could reconcile the Sermon On The Mount with Galatians 2, saying it couldn't be done as Paul was a false prophet and he looked at me and said "OH NO!" Right about that time, the boss (himself a jehovah witness) was walking up so I told him that I would talk to him later...