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Offline FredSnell  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:43:18 AM(UTC)
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Why when we look at these it sure seems this world is following right along with the same course of events that these, "Protocols" suggest? Yada needs to explain further why this is not the case since there are alot of people that think otherwise, including myself. These ultra-rich that by all apperances have a hand in this worlds direction or course with clandistine movement that has been exposed by many, sure seem to be following this playbook to the tee. I would like Yada to further his proof the New World Order will not come off without doing so, by following the plan layed out in this pamplet, book.

http://www.jewsnotzionis...g/differencejudzion.html
Offline dajstill  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:45:44 AM(UTC)
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I haven't heard Yada speak on this. Does he think there is no "new world order"?
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:39:47 AM(UTC)
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He went by it so fast yesterday that I'm sure he probaly thinks some of it true, but really the more efforts I (we) put towards trying to figure out what man is putting forth has the truth in it, when actually it does not, just keeps me from learning Torahs more complete understanding. So, my above post was hastely done and I really don't need to know more than I already do just b/c I'm sure it will lead to another rabbit hole in the end and take my focus off what matters. For instance, today I was talking with an ex-farmer of cotton and was wanting to share Yahs plan of seven, when he got off talking about Dow and Monsanto and we never got back around to my original thought. I let myself get lead astray.

Micah
7:7 Therefore I will look unto YHWH; I will wait for the Elohim of my salvation: my Elohim will hear me.
7:8 Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, YHWH shall be a light unto me

Psalms
118:8 It is better to trust in YHWH than to put confidence in man.
118:9 It is better to trust in YHWH than to put confidence in princes.

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#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:07:47 AM(UTC)
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I have a different take. I think these things are important to know so that you are fully aware of the creep of Babylon that sets in. I, for one, have found myself in situations where I had to wonder if I should be working for a particular employer or not. Looking through my kids books to see this piece slip in or that piece with a hook to Babylon. No, we shouldn't walk around being in hiding places, but it is important to be somewhat vigilant about your surroundings. I just never had any idea of how ingrained some things were. I still struggle with some issues, because I have realized that no matter how much I want out of Babylon there is always this hook or that hook that I can't seem to shake. We should definitely be focusing on Torah, but I think it is also important to know your surroundings as well. For instance, if my kids were teenagers now I would be very concerned about things like who was funding their scholarships (I just recently remembered that I got a small scholarship from the Masons, I didn't even apply for it, but I think a family member was a Mason). All these trails and avenues I thought for so long were neutral, well aren't neutral. It can be overwhelming at times, but I think its still important to at least be aware of the trends around us.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:28:50 PM(UTC)
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The actual document is "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion", which uncannily fits what we' see happening:
http://www.blessyahowah....ocols/the_protocols.html

While disputed, at least encounterhim's 1stl link counters any charges of "anti-semitic", even claiming majority of Jews opposed to Zionism in this or other links like it. Also read link about the holocost on that page, quite eye-opening how millions could have been saved from Hitler's apparatus, but thwarted. Makes one think, is Zionism, and the nation state of Isreal Godly or something of a more sinister agenda?

Another interesting article to read that weaves into this is:
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
Offline Richard  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:54:32 PM(UTC)
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My understanding is that the title of the document was made up by the Illuminati and then used in the publication to cover up who is really behind the protocols, the Illuminati themselves. The story goes that a courier was transporting the document from one place in Europe to another during a thunderstorm in the 1800's when his horse was struck by lightning. The document's contents caused such a stir that the mental giants behind it quickly concocted the whole "Learned Elders of Zion" idea to deflect attention away from themselves.*

The evidence of world history supports the authenticity of the protocols themselves, even though there is no evidence of the so-called Learned Elders of Zion because they do not exist. The proof of the authenticity of the protocols themselves is right before our eyes, written in the history books, in that things are taking place more or less exactly according to the master plan laid down in the protocols. To ignore the evidence of history and current events and to call the protocols a hoax, without providing compelling evidence to support that claim, seems to me no different than the unreasonable mindset of Christians, Roman Catholics, Mormons, Muslims, and others who ignore all the evidence that their religions are opposed to Yahowah's Way.

The protocols are the blueprint of the New World Order. So if you want to know what lies in store for the world in the form of man's one world government, read the protocols. If not, ignore them and pass on your way. But don't scoff at them just because you can't handle the idea that there really is a conspiracy to force the population of the world into a "New World Order".

* - taken from Des Griffin's "Fourth Reich of the Rich"

Edited by user Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:01:04 AM(UTC)  | Reason: rewrite to provide clarification of what I'm trying to say

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:33:12 PM(UTC)
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Psa 2:1 Why do the gentiles rage , And the peoples meditate emptiness?
Psa 2:2 The sovereigns of the earth take their stand, And the rulers take counsel together, Against יהוה and against His Messiah, and say,
Psa 2:3 “Let us tear apart Their bonds, And throw away Their ropes from us.”
Psa 2:4 He who is sitting in the heavens laughs, יהוה mocks at them.
Psa 2:5 Then He speaks to them in His wrath, And troubles them in His rage, saying,
Psa 2:6 “But I, I have set My Sovereign on Tsiyon, My set-apart mountain.”
Psa 2:7 “I inscribe for a law: יהוה has said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have brought You forth.
Psa 2:8 ‘Ask of Me, and I make the gentiles Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth Your possession.
Psa 2:9 ‘Break them with a rod of iron, Dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ ”
Psa 2:10 And now, be wise, O sovereigns; Be instructed, you rulers of the earth.
Psa 2:11 Serve יהוה with fear, And rejoice with trembling.
Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest He be enraged, And you perish in the way, For soon His wrath is to be kindled. Blessed are all those taking refuge in Him.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 6:15:32 PM(UTC)
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Psalm 2
1 Why (mah – for what purpose) are the Gentiles (gowym – people from different races and places) and the nations (la’om – the cultural, religious, and political associations) in actual and total rebellion (ragas – in open defiance, conspiring to completely overthrow the proper authority (qal perfect)), speaking passionately about (hagah – meditating upon and considering the implications of declaring conclusions forcefully, emotionally, and powerfully about) vain, worthless, and delusional fantasies (ryq – empty and unreliable promises, that which is of no advantage or benefit)?
2 Why do earthly (‘erets) royal rulers (melek – kings) and (wa) those who govern (razan – political, judicial, religious, and military officials) establish themselves in positions of authority (yasab – set themselves up and present themselves as authorities by defiantly taking a religious and political stand) while at the same time joining together (yahad – united and working as one) to conspire to rebel (yasad – to plan to establish a foundation and base to initiate a process to appoint and ordain one another to rise up together) against (‘al – placing themselves over and above) Yahowah (Yahowah) and (wa) against (‘al – placing themselves over and above) His Anointed (maseyah / masiyach – Yahowah’s Work [note: while the 2nd Psalm is extant among the Dead Sea Scrolls, this portion of the text is not, so we do not know if it was originally written Ma’aseyah or Maseyach])?
3 Let us of our own volition choose to pull apart, tear, and break (nataq – let us continuously sever, shatter, and separate (piel imperfect cohortative – telling us that those who consciously choose to consistently sever the ties between Yahowah and Yahowsha will endure the ongoing consequence of being eternally separated from them)) accordingly (‘eth) their teachings and bonds (mowserah – that which binds and connects them, especially their instruction and principles) and (wa) we shall throw off the bonds of the relationship (salak – we, of our own volition, will knowingly choose to habitually, continually, intensely, and violently reject any form of association (hiphil imperfect cohortative)) separating from us (min) their interwoven nature (‘aboth – that which is intertwined and connected as well as from the completion of their work
4 Living (yasab – dwelling) in the heavens (ba ha shamaym – in the spiritual realm) Yahowah (Yahowah) is amused and laughs (sahaq – scoffs) by mocking and ridiculing them (la la’ag – by disparaging them). (11QPS from the Qumran collection) Need verses 5-10
11 Work with Yahowah with reverence and respect, and rejoice with a passionate, emotional, and actively engaged response.12 Embrace and pay attention to the directions, demonstrating your affection for the Son (bar – the radiant and enlightening one who is perfect and pure), lest He become displeased, and you wander from the way and cease to exist…. Blessed are all who rely upon Him for their salvation.
Offline Camille  
#9 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2012 5:16:04 PM(UTC)
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cgb2 wrote:

cgb2 wrote:
The actual document is "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion", which uncannily fits what we' see happening:
http://www.blessyahowah....ocols/the_protocols.html

While disputed, at least encounterhim's 1stl link counters any charges of "anti-semitic", even claiming majority of Jews opposed to Zionism in this or other links like it. Also read link about the holocost on that page, quite eye-opening how millions could have been saved from Hitler's apparatus, but thwarted. Makes one think, is Zionism, and the nation state of Isreal Godly or something of a more sinister agenda?

Another interesting article to read that weaves into this is:
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm





I (Camille, who can't seem to master quote button), now respond:

I too don't have an opinion as to the origin being Illuminati and/or Jewish, but it is irrefutable that they been unfolding their plan with precision and that their four horsemen are now at a full gallop.

In Yisrael, the first and second diasporas came about as a result of idolatry, followed by aliyahs signified by a re-turning to Yah. Does this characterize the "third aliyah" that inaugurated "Israel" in 1948?--hardly! "Israel," the brainchild of the United Nations and spawn of the Rockefellers, was instituted as a bastion of socialism with both its political and religious leadership every bit as wicked as ours, who look upon Yahoshua with faces of flint. My personal belief is that the Protocols machinery is busy fomenting war and is specifically orchestrating the Ezekiel 38 nations to battle in order to mimic the fulfillment of prophecy, and that the Luciferian worship that Pike refers to may very well be a false messiah achieved through Kabbalist rituals that bring about the incarnation of the "adam kadmon." Lucifer is the god of the air, and Satan the god of fire, but Belial is the god of the earth--the literal incarnation of Satan--known as the god of the earth, the land beast.

On the other hand, consider the founding of the United States as the greatly expanded Promised Land--the Yisrael with many mansions that Yahoshua promised to prepare for us. At least in its founding, that's truly what was founded by pure-hearted souls guided and directed by Yah--the freest nation on the face of the earth, with laws derived from Torah. If the Promised Land indeed has nothing whatsoever to do with real estate, maybe the New Yerushalayim is not the Old Yerushalayim after all. But if the sons of Satan can get the world focused on the great red herring charade in "Israel," maybe they can get the whole world to believe the lie and buy into the Luciferian program--even almost the very elect!

This time around, just as Iraq is no longer Babylon and Palestine is no longer Yisrael, maybe the Ezekiel 38 nations are strongholds with veiled meaning that will soon be unsealed and revealed.

Maybe it takes a prophet, or a prophetess, to unveil the sealed-up plan that cannot possibly be foreknown or arrived at by analytical process--one who provides the guideposts, and is the source from which flows teaching, direction, guidance, and instruction as the means of bringing about peace through reconciliation.

Maybe the "very small remnant" refers to the "person" of Jacob and his 12 sons, rather than a nation. Maybe the Daughter of Zion too is a person, not a "people." (Proverbs 8, Isaiah 29, 54, 66:7-14, Amos 3:7-8, Micah 4:8-5:1, Zephaniah 3:14-20, Matthew 11:19, John 16:21, Revelation 12, Revelation 18:20, 19:2) Maybe she is Shiloh, the counselor whom Yahoshua promised to send.

Maybe there is a whole underlying drama playing out involving key players, as yet unknown to the world, soon to be revealed as the manifestation and proof of what Yah is saying.

Just my take.

Edited by moderator Saturday, December 1, 2012 6:43:03 AM(UTC)  | Reason: fixes quotes

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