So hopefully jpelham can deal with the following points from the Crash
Course... thread:
jpelham, or any Catholic in defense of Catholicism, needs to justify and explain why the follow things are in accordance with Scripture (according to Catholic beliefs), one would also need to explain away why these things are not linked to pagans and Babylon (the religions of the Gentiles that Yahweh despised, i.e. Deuteronomy 18:9
“Indeed, when you come into (bow’ – enter, are led into, return to, or are included in)
the land associated with (‘ahser)
Yahuweh your God, given (natan – bestowed and entrusted)
to you, you shall not accept, teach, or imitate (lamad – be trained in, instruct, become accustomed to, or disciple others in)
, or perform (‘asah – fashion, effect, attend to, commit to, observe, celebrate, profit from, bring about, ordain or institute)
any of the disgusting religious ways (tow’ebah – abhorrent rites, detestable idolatrous things, repulsive and loathsome rituals, abominable festivals)
of the Gentile nations (gowym)
.”):
The papacy, hierarchal church order and clergy, popes, cardinals, fathers, priests, monks, nuns, a paid clerical staff and human authority. Clerical robes, crowns, and seats of honor. Easter, Lent, the Nativity of St. John, the Feast of the Assumption, All Saints Day, Christmas, Sunday Worship, mass, churches, crosses, religious candles, halos, the golden sunburst icons, holy water, child statues, Madonna and Child, saints, the sacred heart, reverence for relics, canonizing saints and prayers to and for the dead, petitions to Mary and saints, the adoration of Mary, infant baptism and baptismal regeneration, Eucharist, confessions, the Rosary, indulgences, purgatory, the crusades, inquisitions, and the use of torture. And In His Name's reference to the pope's fish hat!
Would need to also justify why it's OK (according to Catholicism) to refuse use of God's Name of Yahweh, to teach that Peter was a pope, that popes are Christ’s representatives, and that popes are holy and infallible. Also, explain why the Catholic Church edited Yahweh’s name out of His Scripture and changed Yahshua’s name and title, and why they kept Yahuweh’s Word from the people for one thousand years.
And a question from Noach needs answering too: Jpelham, why does the Vatican have a pagan obelisk sitting at its front door?
Me wrote:point 841 in the Catechism regarding Muslims says: The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
jpelham wrote:Catholicism is distinct from Islam by virtue of its belief in the categorical validity of reason. Islam allows their god to contradict himself, and be praised nonetheless, a dogmatism it shares identically with Protestant Christendom, though not the dogma. When reason finds itself at odds with doctrine, reason is sacrificed. This observation is not new, and was articulated in a speech delivered at the University of Regensburg in 2006, and promulgated worldwide. Islam responded typically, and Protestant Christendom has yet to offer a noteworthy response.
The Catechism says the Muslims god (Allah) and the God of Abraham (Yahweh) are one and the same, yet jpelham's response is implying that they're different. jpelham's beliefs aren't aligning with the Catechism in this one instance, and that's a good thing ;)
Here's a link to page 3 of the
Crash Course... thread, where some other members, like shalom82, have some great posts that are hopefully answered to as well.