Shalom all

So i've been talking with a evangelic pastor, who i shall leave unnamed, about YY and the inerrancy of what he calls scripture.
To make a long story short he accused YY of "taking verses out of context" and "conflicting the sciptures as a whole" while "agreeing with certain points".
He then FORBADE me to talk with other christians about this because he feels it creates more confusion than clarity, but that he was ready "up to a certain point" to discuss those matters with me.

Now is it just me?

Have a nice day,
Ben

Its true - The same boot that kicked Swalchy kicked us too lol - that's pretty much word for word what they said... lol

Wow, forbid you to talk to other 'Christians'.

That's incredible. Anything to keep the money coming to his 'church', I imagine.

That's downright evil sounding to me.

Ahhh... so refreshing. People getting heat for speaking what is true. Ahhhh.... so refreshing.

I found this document today, and it looks pretty good for the purposes of reaching our christian friends:



The original article can be found here.

As a reply to "Divine Law" I would want to add regarding Yahweh's "grace" in the Tanach. If a person sinned "under the Law" the penalty was not automatically "death"; they could seek forgiveness, "grace", by offering a sacrifice through the priest. Grace is not something brand new. Paul does have a way of equating the Law with death, curses, being a burden, etc.

Shalom,

Welcome Issah, and have a great time here. As for your meeting with the pastor, I'd take a laid back approach and ask questions instead of trying to educate him/her. By asking, you put yourself in a better position as you won't have to do much explaining but he/she will have to justify why they follow a fairy tale instead of Scripture.

Hey welcome Carl :)

Hello friends I thought I would comment on this as well.

My journey out of Babylon really began with my study of the occult (bear with me a sec I know this sounds weird).

I spent years studying the occult and satanism to minister to people involved and in my study of what is going on on planet earth. What really began to wake me up was a Satanist (And I mean real Satanist not some kid dressed in black) would tell me "Satan came to free us from the mean God of the Old Testament and his laws, the new law is now Do what thou wilt".

Needless to say that I was shaken to the core when it finally dawned on me that my religious guru's taught the exact same thing. When it boils down to it American christianity (and I know not all of them, I am speaking of the Religion) teaches that some fellow named "Jesus" came to abolish the law and we are now under grace to "Do what we wilt", or to do what your religious guru says is ok.

Quite frankly I have found pastors to be some of the most ignorant people I have ever met. And there is one big reason for this.

Their massive EGOS. Not to mention I am sure many of them realize the Renewed Covenant utterly condemns the very notion of a "Pastor" and one person leading a "Church" (a word that never occurs in the Scriptures anyways).

I think many pastors know deep down if their congregation is told the truth about say the Sabbath, that the entire deck of cards will come crashing down.

I personally believe that in many ways "Christianity" is the ultimate religion. It is one of the last layers of the onion of deception. It is a religion about the Scriptures, about Elohim, about Messiah Yahushua. But the religion attacks anyone who actually obeys the Creator or obeys the Messiah.

This religious system then keeps the Gentiles stupid and in pagan sun god worship, while causing Hebrews to reject Messiah. I will never forget the day it dawned upon me that Jews rejected Messiah because of ignorant christians like myself. Running around waving the cross of Tammuz and Ra, while telling them the Torah was abolished.

These preachers ego's refuse to let them believe "Christmas" or "Easter" is pagan, because some lay person could have never figured that out before they did.

I always joke: How do you spot a wolf in Sheep's clothing?

They are the ones wearing a 3 piece WOOL suit on sun god worship day, standing in front of the Cross of Tammuz/Ra/Odin/Mithra telling you that only bad christians obey "Jesus" and if you obey YHWH you are going to hell.

Not to say all pastors are bad. Many of them are good men and stuck in their religious systems. Many more have been run off by the churches or denominations for dare telling the truth.

I can remember as a child always being told "Aren't you glad you were born in America and not a Jewish or Muslim country", and I would always feel horrible because I felt lucky while other people were raised in their religions. Of course now I realize that the Babylonian Satanic Icecream is served all over planet earth, and the moment you start playing religion of any kind you are screwed.

I would say this advice though. It is not about the 1,000 people that turn red in the face when you dare say "obey the Messiah", it is about those one or two people, and watching that light go on in their eyes, and their lives are changed forever.

Well stated Ritchie, you have a way with words. Welcome to the forum by the way.

Here are some things I use when dealing with Pastors and or Mainstream christians. (excuse the fake name in this but it is for people who have no idea "Jesus" is not the Messiah's name). A friend on another forum put this together and I find it very helpful and I thought I would share it.

WHAT IS SIN?

AV 1Jn 3:4 . Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


IF WE LOVE GOD, WHAT DOES HE WANT US TO DO?

AV Jn 14:15 . If ye love me, keep my commandments.


WHAT IS LOVE DEFINED BY SCRIPTURE?

AV 2Jn 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.


HOW DO WE LOVE GOD, WHAT DOES LOVING GOD REALLY MEAN

AV 1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.


WHAT IS THE WHOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAN

AV Ec 12:13 . Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.


HOW IS KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS LOVE

AV Mt 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

AV Mt 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

AV Mt 22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

AV Mt 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


HOW SHOULD WE FEEL ABOUT HIS COMMANDMENTS

AV Ps 1:2 But his delight [is] in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

AV Ps 119:35 . Make me to go in the path of thy commandments; for therein do I delight.

AV Pr 29:18 . Where [there is] no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy [is] he.



DID JESUS ABOLISH OR REMOVE ANY COMMANDMENT FROM HIS LAW AND WHAT HAPPENS IF WE TEACH AND ACT LIKE HE DID DO SUCH A THING

AV Mt 5:17 . Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fill up.

AV Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.(law and prophets)

AV Mt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


DID PAUL ABOLISH OR REMOVE ANY COMMANDMENT FROM HIS LAW

AV Ro 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.


HOW DID PAUL FEEL ABOUT THE LAW

AV Ro 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:


DID PAUL FOLLOW AND TEACH THE LAW OF MOSES

Acts21:21-25 Then they said to Paul: "You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews have believed, and all of them are zealous for the law. 21They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or live according to our customs…. Then everybody will know there is no truth in these reports about you (Paul), but that you yourself (Paul)are living in obedience to the law.

DID PAUL FOLLOW AND TEACH THE LAW OF CHRIST

AV Ga 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.


DID JESUS TEACH SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM THE FATHERS COMMANDMENTS, ARE JESUS AND THE FATHER THE SAME (IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LAW OF GOD AND THE LAW OF CHRIST)

AV Jn 10:30 I and my Father are one.

AV Jn 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

AV Jn 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.


WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND KEEP THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST

AV Re 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


DID JESUS STATE THAT RECEIVING THE SWORD OF TRUTH WOULD BRING PEACE

AV Mt 10:34-38 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.


WHAT DOES THE SWORD DO TO PEOPLE

AV Lk 2:35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

AV Hb 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


WHAT DID JESUS STATE WOULD HAPPEN IF WE FOLLOW HIS COMMANDMENTS AND WALK IN HIS PATH

AV Mk 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all [men] for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.


WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENDURE


AV Re 14:12 Here is the endurance of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


HOW DO WE KNOW IF WE KNOW HIM

AV 1Jn 2:3 . And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

AV 1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

AV 1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

AV 1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


SHOULD BELIEVERS DO WHAT IS RIGHT IN OUR OWN EYES AND FOLLOW AFTER OUR OWN HEART OR SHOULD WE JUST SIMPLY FOLLOW HIS COMMANDMENTS?

Deut12 8 “You shall not at all do as we are doing here today—every man doing whatever is right in his own eyes—

Ec11:9 9Rejoice, young man, during your childhood, and let your heart be pleasant during the days of young manhood. And follow the impulses of your heart and the desires of your eyes Yet know that God will bring you to judgment for all these things.
Num15:39 Seek not after your own heart and your own eyes.


SHOULD WE BE CAREFUL NOT TO ADD OR TAKE AWAY FROM HIS COMMANDMENTS

AV Dt 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

AV Dt 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.


SHOULD WE SERVE, WORSHIP, AND REMEMBER GOD IN THE SAME WAYS THAT FALSE GODS HAVE BEEN WORSHIPPED AND REMEMBERED


Dt 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? We will do the same." You must not worship the LORD your God in their way


Jer 10:2-4 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field are they, And they cannot speak; They must be carried, Because they cannot walk! Do not fear them, for they can do no harm, nor can they do any good."

Dt 12:4 You must not worship the LORD your God in their way.


WILL HE HAVE THE SAME COMMANDMENTS DURING HIS REIGN WHEN HE RETURNS


AV Isa 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, [that] the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

AV Isa 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

AV Isa 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.


Re: Some Consise Notes

Postby jds6958 » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:45 pm
CAN WE BE CORRUPTED OR SPOILED BY MAN'S PHILOSOPHY, TRADITIONS, AND PRINCIPLES OF THE WORLD

AV Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.


DID ABRAHAM ALREADY HAVE THE LAW AND COMMANDMENTS OR WAS THE LAW A NEW INVENTION AT MOUNT SINAI

AV Gn 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.


ARE WE HEIRS OF ABRAHAM’S PROMISE IF WE ARE OF CHRIST

AV Ga 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


IF WE ARE HEIRS OF THE PROMISE OF ABRAHAM, ARE WE TO FOLLOW THE LAWS AND COMMANDMENTS LIKE ABRAHAM DID

AV Jn 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.


WHAT IS FAITH

AV Hb 11:1 . Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.


WHAT IS WORKS

AV Mt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

AV Re 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.


IF LETTING OUR LIGHT SHINE IS GOOD WORKS WHICH EARNS OUR REWARDS/CROWNS, WHAT IS THE LIGHT THAT WE SHOW BEFORE MEN

AV Pr 6:23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:


WHO IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF HOW TO WALK IN THE LIGHT, YHWH’s COMMANDMENTS AND LAW, OUR WAY OF LIFE

AV Jn 8:12 . Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.


WHY DID JESUS CONSIDER HIMSELF TO BE THE LIGHT

AV Jn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


SHOULD WE WALK AS JESUS WALKED AND FOLLOW THE WORD AS JESUS FOLLOWED THE WORD

AV 1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


HOW DO WE PERFECT OUR FAITH

AV Ja 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

AV Ja 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

AV Ja 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.


WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FAITH AND WORKS

AV Ja 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

AV Ja 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.


HOW DO WE SHOW OUR FAITH

AV Ja 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.


IS IT POSSIBLE FOR WORKS TO PLEASE GOD WITHOUT FAITH

AV Hb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

(Therefore, it is not possible to have faith without works, it is not possible to have faith and not want to be obedient, however, it is possible to have works without faith, but God will not accept it as works to Him, but works to the world. One's faith is evidenced by works and is a direct correlation. The greater one's faith, the greater one's works and obedience. Salvation is granted by faith through grace - which is evidence of God's love to us - Obedience is a result of our faith and evidenced by our faith - which is evidence of our love to God)


AFTER WE REALIZE THAT JESUS IS THE ONE WHAT DID JESUS SAY WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO TO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE

AV Mt 19:16 . And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

AV Mt 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.


WHAT DID JESUS STATE THAT WE ARE TO DO IN ORDER TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO THE TREE OF LIFE

AV Re 22:14 Blessed are they that do His (YHWH’s) commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


WHAT ARE YHWH’s COMMANDMENTS

Everything that YHWH commanded His people to do in all that is in scripture, from Genesis to Revelation.


ARE ANY PARTS OF THE LAW OR ANY COMMANDMENTS IN SCRIPTURE NOT HOLY, GOOD, OR JUST

AV Ro 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.


IS THE PATH OR THE WAY OF LIFE (THE LIGHT/THE WORD) BROAD OR NARROW AND IS IT FEW OR MANY THAT FIND IT

AV Mt 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

AV Mt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


ARE WE TO BE CAUTIOUS OF FALSE PROPHETS AND DO FALSE PROPHETS APPEAR LIKE BELIEVERS ON THE SURFACE

AV Mt 7:15 . Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


HOW WILL WE KNOW FALSE PROPHETS

AV Mt 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

AV Mt 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

AV Mt 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

AV Mt 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

AV Mt 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


WHAT IS GOOD FRUIT THAT BELIEVERS BRING FORTH

AV Jn 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

AV Jn 15:9 . As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

AV Jn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.


WILL THERE BE PEOPLE THAT THOUGHT THEY WERE BRING FORTH GOOD FRUIT AND ACTUALLY WERE BRINGING FORTH CORRUPT FRUIT

AV Mt 7:21 . Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

AV Mt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

AV Mt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


WHAT IS THE FATHER’S WILL AND WHAT IS INIQUITY

AV Lv 5:17 And if a soul sin, and commit any of these things which are forbidden to be done by the commandments of the LORD; though he wist it not, yet is he guilty, and shall bear his iniquity.


HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW HIM AND ARE IN HIM

AV 1Jn 2:3 . And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

AV 1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

AV 1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.


WHO REDEAMED US FROM INEQUITY SHOULD WE HAVE FAITH, COMMIT, TRUST AND BELIEVE AND HOW WILL WE ACT AND WHAT WILL WE BE IF WE ARE TRUELY HIS PEOPLE

AV Ti 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

AV Ti 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


WHEN THE MANY FALSE PROPHETS ARISE WHAT WILL HAPPEN

AV Mt 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

AV Mt 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.


WILL THESE FALSE PROPHETS SPEAK OF GOD'S WAYS, THE WAY OF TRUTH, AS EVIL

AV 2Pt 2:1 . But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

AV 2Pt 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.


IF INIQUITY IS SIN WHY DO PEOPLE LET THESE NUMEROUS FALSE PROPHETS CAUSE OTHERS AND THEMSELVESTO SIN

AV 2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

AV 2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

AV 2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


WHAT IS THE WAY OF TRUTH THAT WILL BE SPOKEN OF AS EVIL BY FALSE PROPHETS

AV Ps 119:142 . Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.

AV Dn 9:13 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.

AV Mal 2:6 The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity.


IF JESUS WAS THE WORD MADE FLESH AND THE LAW IS THE TRUTH, IS JESUS THE TRUTH
AV Jn 14:5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

AV Jn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

AV Jn 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.


IF JESUS IS THE TRUTH, WHICH IS ALSO THE WORD AND LAW, WHAT IS THE LIFE AND THE WAY?

AV Pr 6:23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:

AV Pr 13:13 . Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.

AV Pr 13:14 . The law of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

AV Pr 13:15 . Good understanding giveth favour: but the way of transgressors is hard.


IF JESUS IS THE LIGHT, THE TRUTH, THE LIFE, THE WAY, THAT WE SHOULD WALK DID PAUL ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE LAW AND PROPHETS WAS THE WAY

AV Ac 9:2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of the Way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

AV Ac 19:9 But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of the Way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.

AV Ac 19:23 And the same time there arose no small stir about the Way.

AV Ac 24:13 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.

AV Ac 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the Way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:


HOW SHOULD WE RESPOND TO OTHERS WITH THE TRUTH

AV Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

AV Ti 2:15 . These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

AV 1Ti 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

AV Prov 9:8 Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you; Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.

AV Jude 1:3…contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.


DO WE NEED MEN TO TEACH US HOW TO UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURE

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.


WHAT IS THE LAW’S RELATIONSHIP TO BEARING FRUIT AND HOW WILL SINNERS FAIR IN THE JUDGMENT EVEN IF THEY ARE IN THE CONGREGATION OF THE RIGHTEOUS?

AV Ps 1:1 . Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

AV Ps 1:2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

AV Ps 1:3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

AV Ps 1:4 . The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

AV Ps 1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, NOR sinners IN the CONGREGATION of the RIGHTEOUS

AV Ps 1:6 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

Hello Providential1611,
Just want to welcome you here. I've briefly read some of your other posts and the responses and just want to ask you to forgive communications from an unkind spirit. No one is happy to see unkindness in themselves. There truly is worthy scholarship here - I hope you will stay around awhile.

Not everyone here agrees with the conclusions of "Questioning Paul." So much truth is communicated through his writings, one of which we need to constantly consider: "knowledge puffs up, but love builds up" (Jeremiah 9:22-24 too).

I really like this description that another author (not from this website) has written:



Torah submissive out of overwhelming love and gratitude for the living Torah's perfect observance of Torah on our behalf. YHWH bless you.

im meeting with the pastor of my former (wife's current) sunday church tonite. pray my thoughts are set aside so Yah can use me as his vessel, and that he pricks the heart and opens the mind of pastor steve.

I would add, "Be yourself. Yahuweh's Spirit will give you what to say when you should say it, not before nor after the perfect moment. Moreover, She will bring to your remembrance all things - no matter what - that Yahushua said, so that you will be able to answer courteously and with pinpoint accuracy whatever questions might be asked of you."

May Yahuweh prosper and protect you tonight and always.