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MS wrote:Have just listened to your discussion with Roy Masters.
I understand Roy very well and I could, can, understand all that you've said very well.
Roy is funny, hung up in his own, very particular ways, and makes a lot to do about what he thinks and believes in terms of the words, phrases and concepts that Roy has chosen. Expecting you or being use to people becoming so familiar with what he says and 'how he says it' caused a discrepancy between his emphasis on the 'wordless word' and your ability to pick up the fact that he means 'understanding'; above, beyond and supremely valuable relative to dry knowledge.
This is worth pointing out about Roy: Roy is one of the, if not the, most well informed person who is able to share and describe much about our inner workings, relationship dynamics, and bring deeper, broader, wider and higher understanding of the male/female, 'man/woman is but a beast', conditions which determine the social, family, fabric of society inside each and every individual more importantly, more distinctly and, for me, relevant; being applicable to the personal relationships God gives us; primarily including the insights that are relevant to our own understanding about life.
Viewing, seeing, people through the eyes of understanding that reveal to us that "all that is in the world is the pride of life, the lust/wantonness of eyes and lust of flesh" as an identity formed in us, first, in and of the world, from which God saves us is a perspective most unpopular in any Sunday/Saturday sermon, thereby, leading, resulting, in mass blindness. .... and fewer on the God-chosen road of salvation which requires an "enduring to the end" - therefore minus any institution that could ever offer, give or be the source of any such truth.
Ok, I had come back to this point and added the above paragraph. I best call it quits here or you will be inundated with a book; called a single, inspired, writing, session.
Anyway, just to share a bit to speak of the wordless word of understanding that was easy for me to ascertain in, what appears to be, a nearly first conversation.
I especially appreciated your point on the the truth of God's nature, the nature of God's word, truth, love and spiritually alive word; the Is, Was and Will Be truth of God. As I would share, all of God's truth is true continually and operating in, determining, everyone's life all the time right now, always - now, before and tomorrow.
I am most sure that we can have, will have, a fruitful conversation with tell tale truth signs of words that speak to a most fruitful relationship.
You may call me anytime.
MS ***-***-**** is the home number.
Best anytime after 2 pm EST and up till 10 pm.
My time is given to what people call 'full time' in an engagement, ongoing growth, of/in/for/about/through what God's love, truth, light and purpose are. For the purpose of engaging, having and receiving a true life which brings about the faith of 'walking out unto/into God's good works' for the servicing sake of love, truth and life in the lives of others. Those whom God would have me aid, adding seed and water, as God see fit, as God determines; giving my life minus any expectations that would rob us of life; believing and having faith that God's word, love, truth and light never go out in vain.
This has been true, generally, off and on, my entire life. This searching, this distinctively revealing revelation outside of organized, institutional, indoctrinating, evil, religion. The 'full time' focus, listening, writing, contemplating, thinking, reflecting, all day. But, with single hearted focus approximately 5-12 hours a day without exception. This started in and around, 2002; becoming more steadily. Certainly this is the case after 2004, solidly a fact since 2005.
As God gives, increasing life, that which light, love and truth are we find ourselves among fewer and fewer people who are able to tolerate, receive, have interest, understand and more of what a working, close, relationship calls upon us to be.
I had to get up and out of bed, laying down, listening for the past few hours to write something to you sooner than, tomorrow, later; making sure that I searched out your name and website so that it would be in front of me for further reading/review - looking for common ground in understanding - for what we might address and/or open up to each other. Understanding of the time before Christ is understood to be essential, invaluably confirming.
Do you know of Andrew Jukes - and his understanding of type and shadow?
There are few people in this world with whom I can speak and share openly with a good sense of understanding. There are just a few to whom i can listen, read and converse.
I do not speak much - if any - concerning politics or social dynamics once concluding that evil directs the world during my early, political, social, studies and political interests in my late teens well before and while at college as a Political Science major, even - for lack of any other focus of collegiate offer or interest. Religion/philosophy the same which had included taking a year off after my junior year for a "purpose of life study" purchasing significant, thorough, and esoteric books on the world's religions/philosophies (Ok, this is me going on, not quitting as mentioned above) Isn't that something about Mohammed? -- geesh.
Hope all is well.
Your brother in and of The Christ,
MS
-- you see it's 3:41 am, once i got up to write any sense of tiredness of thought of time tends to cease.
ah, light! Yada wrote:MS
You are correct, by the "wordless word" Roy means "understanding," something that is the result of processing actual words rationally. So he is encouraging people to meditate on understanding while I'm trying to get people to understand. And that is why I turned to the Hebrew words "shamar - closely examine and carefully consider" and "nesamah - exercise good judgment." If we had more time, Roy would have seen the common denominator between these things, something I suspect he already appreciates but still wanted to reinforce his terminology.
That said, it was a wonderful discussion. Roy is very bright and his conclusions are sound.
I'm glad that you enjoyed the revelation that Hebrew words are not stuck in time, and thus not only represent Yahowah, but are also eternally true. I also wanted to share how this corresponds to light, but Roy has an issue with Einstein.
I do not know Jukes. And I do not use "Christ," even as a title. It is not valid. God's one and only name is Yahowah. We are best served when we use it.
Yada MS wrote:At the age of 12 it became apparent to me that the idea of 'hell' - eternal suffering for resurrected flesh that had been enabled to experience pain with no redeeming value forever had to be a great misnomer at the least.
Let alone being a lie and evil.
This mentioned as a precursor to the same impossibility that there was a trinity, three Gods in one. Therefore JC is not God but a man who is the "only-begotten son of God; his Father"
This shared for the purpose of asking you if you believe that
The timelessness topic was mentioned in respect to a focus in understanding given by Yahowah in me ----- that speaks to a growing degree of clarity and application of the timeless truth of Yahowah's revelation of true life. Understanding that God's truth, God's revelation, supported by God's word, Yahowah's tool of giving and furthering understanding, is timeless and always applicable at all times.
Significance being, more so, now, for those who are given to see and understand with ears to hear and understand.
Coming up to the question, as well as i can put if for you.
1) -- Do you believe that Yahowah had a son who is 'the messiah' prophesied? - or whatever Hebrew words that you would like to use which have added, aided, in who you have become -- your beliefs, your understandings?
Really, on this point i would have to say, share. That one's understanding about what Love is, what Truth is, who God is, and the Light God gives can all be given by God with or without ever, personally, only knowing, the use and meaning of hebrew words specifically. This is not to dismiss, in any way, the fact that the knowledge and understanding of Hebrew words were not a part of someone's understanding which resulted in impacting another's understanding.
as to not dismiss anything of, by, through, Yahowah
Yet, to be overly dismissive of where God has a person, by Yahowah's spiritual means, would appear to be a gross lack of faith in Yahowah's will for what is, what was and what will be for whom God chooses, for whom and when God wills.
There can be, is, a time and a person with whom God/Yahowah has worked, judged, and transformed to be with eyes that see and ears that hear that which is true, loving and of Yahowah's light.
One might be exceedingly patient with the, a, gift of meeting, hosting, entertaining, hospitably being visited by "angels/messengers unaware"?
2) whatcha believe, think, bout that?
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