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A very close friend of mine is Catholic, but he disagrees with some of it and we have had a few good discussions about it. I am posting our e-mails (w/ his permission) about the topic of the catholics banning the name Yahweh. The intention of this is so that after there are a few replies with comments, etc.. then I will let him know and he will come to the forum & read them and then if he has questions or comments, he (may) post something and then he can get some views from you guys. The key thing to remember is that this person has said that he wants to know the truth. So here goes: Quote:From: T Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:27 PM To: S Subject: Yahweh Hey we haven't had a spiritual chat in awhile.. When you have time, and if interested, take a look at this. If you read this post: http://forum.yadayahweh.....aspx?g=posts&t=1230 , you can see that(yesterday, Aug 13) the Vatican has banned the use of the name of "Yahweh" in the RCC(Roman Catholic Church), !!! there are links once you get on this link to show you the source of each news article and the full stories. Ouch... Here is some info as to why that is a huge step in the wrong direction. The following is a quote from the book "YadaYahweh" and I'll post the link to the particular chapter after the quote: (begin quote) "Our translations either butcher or replace most names and titles, including all of the most important ones. For example, none of the seven names or titles attributed to divinity (errantly rendered as: Lord, Jesus, Christ, God, Father, Spirit, or Son) were written out on any page of any of the pre-Constantinian Greek manuscripts of the Renewed Covenant. Placeholders were uniformly used to tell us where to insert: Yahuweh, Yahushua, Messiyah-the Anointed Implement of Yah, and Set-Apart Spirit. You may be surprised to learn that God told us His name—Yahuweh—exactly 7,000 times in the Old Covenant—that’s an average of seven times per page. On each occurrence, men elected to copyedit the Creator, erasing His name and replacing it with a title of their own choosing—one associated with Lord/Ba’al, better known as Satan. There are two reasons that the placeholders were universally used in all of the first through third century manuscripts of the Renewed Covenant. Names like Yahuweh and Yahushua cannot be transliterated using the Greek alphabet. And divine titles are all better explained in the original language—where the words themselves convey important meanings. This shouldn’t have been a problem since God and His human messengers told us where to look for answers—in the Torah, Prophets and Psalms. But sadly, religious men and women have conspired to hide the evidence contained therein. Further exacerbating the problem, most Christians have been misled to believing that their religion serves as the replacement for the Old Covenant’s teachings, not recognizing that there is only one Covenant. Every name and title Yahuweh chose to reveal conveys essential truths, and yet these messages are routinely ignored. “Jesus” is actually Yahushua; it means “Yah Saves.” The name “Jesus” is manmade, recent, erroneous, and meaningless. Yahushua tells us that Yahuweh manifest Himself in the form of a man, and that as a man, He Himself saved us.(end quote) The link for this is http://yadayahweh.com/Ya...weh_Genesis_Reshith.YHWHThis is more of a heads up so you know what's going on with the RCC, but if you have questions, feel free to ask, or better yet we can go onto the above forum and ask questions on the forum to get responses from people who have studied it more than I have. I am a member of the forum that corresponds to the 2 links above. I hope that instead of discarding it, Yahweh's name is shouted from the rooftops of those of the catholic faith that seek the truth about Him. -T S's response: Quote: This is pretty nitty gritty. Probably more for someone like you than me. We can certainly discuss further but at the end of the day I don't think God would care if I called him Jesus, God, Yahweh or Bud - as long as I paid him a visit and following his word. There are many things about the Catholic faith that I don't agree with and I believe that to be true for many Catholics. But, if it gets you reading the word of God and being a better person then it's ok by me.
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My response: Quote:From: T Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:59 PM To: S Subject: RE: Yahweh
Sorry for the delayed response. I don't think He minds us calling Him God, either, although I certainly don't think He wants us calling Him Jesus or Lord based on what I've learned about those 2 names.. but I guess the point is more that He wants us to know that His personal name is Yahweh. He tells us His name 7,000 times in the original text and men copyedited all of them out. Over and over He told us in the scriptures just how important His name is - so why would a denomination make it illegal to use His name, the name that He told us was so important (one might wonder)?
As one of the many examples, check out Jer 23:27 when you look at the original Hebrew meaning of each word(each Hebrew word defined in parenthesis while scripture is in bold print) - keep in mind it is Yahweh doing the talking: from YY GDR "Pergamos" chapter: "They invent and scheme (chashab - calculate, fabricate, plot, and contrive, reckoning and imputing devices, planning to determine value and values) to cause My family ('am - people, specifically Yisra'el) to forget and ignore (shakach - mislay and become oblivious to) My personal name (shem - proper designation, reputation, renown, information, title, honor, character, authority, and position) by their dreams (chalowm - series of feelings, images, and revelations) which through relationships and associations ('asher) they relate and recount (caphar - rehearse, declare, and record; officially enumerating in written material) to mankind ('iysh), to friends, neighbors, companions, fellow citizens and associates (rea'). Sadly broken and cowed through intimidation (ka'ah - to have one's resolve and courage subdued and destroyed; to be disheartened and discouraged) as their fathers ceased to care about, forgot and ignored (shakach - mislaid, allowing to wither, becoming oblivious to) My name because of Ba'al (Ba'al - the proper name of the supreme male sungod divinity of the Babylonians, Phoenicians, Canaanites, and now Israelites meaning Lord, Owner, and Master)?'" (Jeremiah 23:27)
PS- if you are interested, I would like to post our discussion on the forum(without using our names) to see what kind of responses and insights we would get. I think it would be interesting to see some opinions of others and we even might learn something new. Let me know.
T
S's response Quote:I'm fine with posting the question/discussion.
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